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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2020 19:09:54 GMT -5
That old 250-3000 Savage is now shooting, and doing a pretty good job of it. Some may remember that I bought a Savage model 99 in .250-3000 Savage from Big Ken on the other site. I have wanted one since I saw one in a gun shop way back in the 1960s and fell in love with it. My aim was to work up a load for it and take it south to try on whitetails, but for some reason or another, I just never got one of those round tuits. Last week I decided the time had come. I replaced the old Weaver K4 scope that came with it with a Leupold, and took it to the range. Using Remington core loct factory 100 grain loads, I sighted it in. The photo below is of the last three shot group at our camp range, distance 80 yards. Many thanks to Big Ken for being patient with my delay in getting it ready. It will be used for deer this year. I will fine tune this a bit before taking it hunting, but I am confident it would kill deer just as it is now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2020 19:20:03 GMT -5
This is the rifle.
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Post by Dutch on Mar 10, 2020 19:33:11 GMT -5
My brother loves his 250, but the danged thing doesn't shoot to his specs. Nonetheless, he's killed a few deer with it. Dad used it to kill one of the bigger bucks we ever killed, back in 97.
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Post by GlennD on Mar 10, 2020 21:25:47 GMT -5
Love it Mutt. One of these days ...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2020 4:26:13 GMT -5
My brother loves his 250, but the danged thing doesn't shoot to his specs. Nonetheless, he's killed a few deer with it. Dad used it to kill one of the bigger bucks we ever killed, back in 97. Some of the first model 99s in this caliber had a slower twist to the rifling (1:14) and would not stabilize bullets of 100 grain or more. The one I have has the 1:10 twist, and apparently shoots 100 grain bullets fairly well. The squares on that target are 1". I have been doing some research into handloading for it. I want to have that gun driving tacks by this fall. I'll keep yinz posted on progress. My first attempt at a handload was using Winchester 760 powder and Barnes TTSX 100 grain bullets, and it was terrible. I'm going to try some different powders next. Any thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2020 5:10:47 GMT -5
Love it Mutt. One of these days ... My "some day" finally rolled around the corner, Glenn. It took way more than 50 years to happen.
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Post by davet on Mar 11, 2020 7:30:46 GMT -5
That's no only a fine looking rifle, but a great cartridge!! All the downrange energy of a .308 with less recoil.
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Post by rem700 on Mar 11, 2020 8:06:18 GMT -5
That's a great looking rifle you got.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2020 5:58:42 GMT -5
I am learning a lot more about this caliber and this rifle. One of the things I have found out is that it doesn't give up a whole lot to such calibers as .243 Winchester and 6.5 Creedmoor. What amazed me was this photo from an article in American Rifleman. www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2019/2/4/the-little-savage-250-3000/From left: .243, .250 Sav., 6.5 Creed The 6.5 Creedmoor's big advantage is that it can throw much heavier bullets.
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Post by davet on Mar 13, 2020 7:35:56 GMT -5
BTW.....the same bullet can be "launched" (if you handload) from a modern action rifle (no old mauser's) at the same velocities but the 6.5x55 will do it with much less pressure.
The MAP of the Creedmore is 62,000 PSI.
The MAP of the 6.5x55 Modern Actions(Europe certified) is 55,114 PSI
The MAP of the 6.5x55 for old Mausers is 46,412
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Post by 3212 on Mar 13, 2020 8:02:47 GMT -5
My SIL inherited a 250-3000 from his step grandfather.It had the slow twist.My buddy loaded 85 grainers for it.The problem was it was beat up.The stock had some crude repairs.He killed a 7 point the first time he hunted with it in PA.After that I couldn't get it to hold a group.
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Post by Dutch on Mar 13, 2020 8:03:29 GMT -5
I am learning a lot more about this caliber and this rifle. One of the things I have found out is that it doesn't give up a whole lot to such calibers as .243 Winchester and 6.5 Creedmoor. What amazed me was this photo from an article in American Rifleman. www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2019/2/4/the-little-savage-250-3000/From left: .243, .250 Sav., 6.5 Creed The 6.5 Creedmoor's big advantage is that it can throw much heavier bullets. Don't ask me why, maybe the quality of new guns, but that Creed is just so pleasantly, inherently accurate
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Post by Dutch on Mar 13, 2020 8:10:51 GMT -5
If we put the older cartridges in newer rifles, would they be just as accurate?
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Post by Muab Dib on Mar 13, 2020 8:20:13 GMT -5
Hey Dutch, did'ja ever see what a 30-30 Winchester can do in one of those Remington 788's they used to make? Impressive they say. Only cartridge that beat me is the 22 Hornet; I've had three (single shots from two different makers and a bolt). I never could get the 22 Hornet to shoot well enough for me and took a financial beat'n on each one. Finally said the heck with it and stuck with my 222 Remingtons.
Oh and Muttley; nice rifle. I have one in 300 Sav. Always wanted one of those 99A's they made back in the 70's (straight grip) in 250 Sav. Figured it'd be an ideal mountain rifle for whitetails. Enjoy yours!
Muab
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Post by davet on Mar 13, 2020 11:47:45 GMT -5
You can see from the pic below that on my "rebuilt and re-barreled" Savage 110 the small cluster of 4 in the bullseye is shooting bulk Nosler bullets with RL-22 at 100 yards. I was shooting and getting the scope wired in. Had I shot this with my Savage 110 single shot bolt action using IMR-4350 and the Hornady ELD bullet, the result would have been one ragged hole.
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Post by gemihur on Oct 5, 2022 13:32:47 GMT -5
The ultimate walkabout companion
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