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Post by longbeard on Feb 6, 2019 14:20:43 GMT -5
I noticed that Winchester has 20 ga shot shells in the Long beard turkey load. These are supposed to shoot tighter groups due to a compound holding the pellets together. Anybody used these? Performance? I only shoot 30 yds and in but the tight pattern sounds interesting.
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Post by dougell on Feb 6, 2019 14:31:33 GMT -5
Here's my take after using a 20ga exclusively for turkeys for the past 7 tears.You don't want lead and those longbeards are only shooting about 1000 fps,which is bad for loner shots.There's no sense in having a tight pattern if you don't have the energy at longer distances.Try some #7 tungstem loads.We've been smashing turkeys in excess of 50 yards without a single cripple or second shot needed.A 20ga is the perfect turkey gun with the right load and #7 tungsten.
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Post by davet on Feb 6, 2019 17:17:05 GMT -5
About two.....maybe three years ago I took a longboard with Hevishot at 50 yards. Bang.....flop, flip-flop....dead.
I still have some and it's all I use. I've killed 'em closer.....but I was very surprised by their effectiveness. Even tho they state you can use it out to that range......saying and doing are two different things. I "trusted" the marketing....it worked!
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Post by Dutch on Feb 6, 2019 17:29:37 GMT -5
I saw a pattern that was shot with a 410, at 35 yds. Boggled my mind that so many pellets could fit in a turkeys head!
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Post by cspot on Feb 6, 2019 17:33:53 GMT -5
Here's my take after using a 20ga exclusively for turkeys for the past 7 tears.You don't want lead and those longbeards are only shooting about 1000 fps,which is bad for loner shots.There's no sense in having a tight pattern if you don't have the energy at longer distances.Try some #7 tungstem loads.We've been smashing turkeys in excess of 50 yards without a single cripple or second shot needed.A 20ga is the perfect turkey gun with the right load and #7 tungsten. I think they even have it in #9 shot and says that it will penetrate better than #5 shot lead. They ones' I have been using were #7 but are no longer made. I am going to switch to Federal TSS. www.federalpremium.com/products/shotshell/premium-turkey/heavyweight-tss |
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Post by cspot on Feb 6, 2019 17:35:08 GMT -5
About two.....maybe three years ago I took a longboard with Hevishot at 50 yards. Bang.....flop, flip-flop....dead. I still have some and it's all I use. I've killed 'em closer.....but I was very surprised by their effectiveness. Even tho they state you can use it out to that range......saying and doing are two different things. I "trusted" the marketing....it worked! The bird I shot last year was at 40 yards and it was a bang flop. It drove his head straight backward. I was impressed. |
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Post by dougell on Feb 6, 2019 17:49:55 GMT -5
Here's my take after using a 20ga exclusively for turkeys for the past 7 tears.You don't want lead and those longbeards are only shooting about 1000 fps,which is bad for loner shots.There's no sense in having a tight pattern if you don't have the energy at longer distances.Try some #7 tungstem loads.We've been smashing turkeys in excess of 50 yards without a single cripple or second shot needed.A 20ga is the perfect turkey gun with the right load and #7 tungsten. I think they even have it in #9 shot and says that it will penetrate better than #5 shot lead. They ones' I have been using were #7 but are no longer made. I am going to switch to Federal TSS. www.federalpremium.com/products/shotshell/premium-turkey/heavyweight-tssIt's the same weight as #5 lead but smaller so it penetrates better. |
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Post by Dutch on Feb 6, 2019 17:52:11 GMT -5
All this stuff is nothing more than a crutch for hunters to lazy to call a bird into range.
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Post by turkeykiller on Feb 6, 2019 18:02:45 GMT -5
CALL EM CLOSER!
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Post by dougell on Feb 6, 2019 18:09:41 GMT -5
Actually,it's not about shooting them at long range with a 20ga.It's about being able to cleanly kill them up to 40 yards with a light weight,light recoiling gun.If you happen to misjudge the distance,you have a buffer.Jordan and I called 8 jakes and two longbeards in when he was 10 years old.When the first longbeard got to about 30-35 yards,he flattened it.We watched as the jakes jumped on top of the dead bird and took turns flogging it.I had no intentions of killing one but Jordan turned around,handed me his gun and I shot the other longbeard that had run a short distance and stopped.The bird went strait down at the shot.When I went to get it,I looked back to where we were sitting and thought,man that was a poke.I later ranged it at 55 yards.Hunting turkeys to me is all about working the bird.I call them in close so I have no need for a 12ga,optics or a tight choke.Tungsten shot drops them like a bad habit so that's why I use it.
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Post by good ole boy on Feb 6, 2019 18:53:50 GMT -5
If your gonna stay within 30 yards any good game load will be fine if you do your part.I have a basic 20 ga.Mossberg youth with a factory full choke and it is more than adequate.
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Post by cspot on Feb 6, 2019 19:00:37 GMT -5
All this stuff is nothing more than a crutch for hunters to lazy to call a bird into range. That is why I use a crossbow most of the time. I can get them at 100 yards.  |
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Post by cspot on Feb 6, 2019 19:01:38 GMT -5
Tungsten shot drops them like a bad habit so that's why I use it. It also drops money out of your wallet like a bad habit. |
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Post by Dutch on Feb 6, 2019 20:08:50 GMT -5
If your gonna stay within 30 yards any good game load will be fine if you do your part.I have a basic 20 ga.Mossberg youth with a factory full choke and it is more than adequate. OMG, you can't use that! You need the newest whiz bang gun, choke and shot! 😂 |
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Post by whitefalcon on Feb 6, 2019 22:21:01 GMT -5
Attachment DeletedAttachment DeletedI use a 12ga.#5's, copper coated lead. I like to call them in where I can see their eyes blink. This is about a forth I have taken. In TX you can take 4 birds. Best I ever did was 3 Toms at one sit. I start with a Lynch Fool Prof call and finish with a mouth call.
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Post by good ole boy on Feb 9, 2019 9:56:23 GMT -5
What! You mean you don,t use your own calls?   |
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Post by ridgecommander on Feb 9, 2019 11:22:54 GMT -5
Shotguns for turkeys are for sissys. Shoot em in the eye with an arrow.
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Post by twofortythree on Feb 26, 2019 15:23:18 GMT -5
I noticed that Winchester has 20 ga shot shells in the Long beard turkey load. These are supposed to shoot tighter groups due to a compound holding the pellets together. Anybody used these? Performance? I only shoot 30 yds and in but the tight pattern sounds interesting.  If you're only shooting 30 yards the longbeards in #6 will do the job just fine. I killed the last 6 with the 20gauge, it is a 50+ yard gun all day with tss or hevi shot. |
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Post by twofortythree on Feb 26, 2019 15:24:50 GMT -5
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Post by dougell on Feb 26, 2019 15:40:39 GMT -5
Problem is,paper targets aren't turkey's spine and skulls.These shells shoot a tight pattern but they're shooting lead at 900fps which won't maintain energy at far distances.That's not an effective long range load.It's also not an effective short range load because the longbeards shoot very tight patterns at close range.TSS is the way to go with a 20ga.
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Post by cspot on Feb 26, 2019 17:21:16 GMT -5
Problem is,paper targets aren't turkey's spine and skulls.These shells shoot a tight pattern but they're shooting lead at 900fps which won't maintain energy at far distances.That's not an effective long range load.It's also not an effective short range load because the longbeards shoot very tight patterns at close range.TSS is the way to go with a 20ga. I think that is what 243 said. He said the Longbeards in #6 is fine for 30 yards. You need Heavi-shot or TSS for 50. |
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Post by dougell on Feb 27, 2019 10:10:29 GMT -5
But you don't need or want a super tight pattern at 30 yards like these shells give you.
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Post by twofortythree on Feb 28, 2019 7:25:53 GMT -5
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Post by twofortythree on Feb 28, 2019 7:33:41 GMT -5
Yes...its tss or hevi shot for me out of the 20 gauge.
Im all 20 gauge for the last 5 years. Sold my 3,5 auto gold.
With hevi #7 or tss #9 or larger its a 50 yard turkey killer all day.
With the longbeard lead you will no problems at all killing turkeys at 30 yards. But i want to maximize the lethality of my 20. Tss is the way to do it.
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Post by redarrow on Feb 28, 2019 7:56:21 GMT -5
Workin' to get one in close is what spring season's all about. I have never shot a turkey over 30 yards away. But if the special loads give that much room for error, I'm all for using them.
Every turkey I have killed has been with a Stevens SxS 12ga. A couple of the fall birds were taken with low brass 7 1/2 shot. If I get back into turkey hunting this year I might try these loads and carry my 20ga SxS.
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