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Post by gobblerhunter on Oct 23, 2018 6:09:47 GMT -5
I know this sounds dumb but you never can tell anymore. can I take my boy out (mentored youth) to tag along with me bird hunting? like he would not be shooting or anything just following and watching. I would think yes
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Post by davet on Oct 23, 2018 6:43:05 GMT -5
I can't see why not. As long as he has on the proper FO (hat, vest). IMHO, a young man tagging along with no firearm will learn volumes about hunting. Just be cautious that he doesn't "participate" in the actual hunt. I don't think he can be part of say......hunters spaced apart while walking out a field or woods. He can stay right beside or behind you, but I don't think he can be part of a "flushing" crew.
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Post by gobblerhunter on Oct 23, 2018 6:55:59 GMT -5
That's what I was thinking. Yep I'd have him right behind me the whole time. I take him with me in the spring and he likes watching the dog hunt so I figure id take him out some morning then after let him hunt squirrels. Thanks
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Post by fleroo on Oct 23, 2018 9:03:07 GMT -5
The answer is yes. Did it with mine.
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Post by timberdoodle on Oct 23, 2018 9:45:53 GMT -5
sure...just needs to meet orange requirements
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Post by dougell on Oct 23, 2018 10:19:13 GMT -5
You can and it's something he should definately experience.I think it's stupid that MY's can't hunt pheasants.
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Post by dennyf on Oct 23, 2018 18:04:48 GMT -5
MYH is pretty much limited to situations where the youth and the mentor are stationary, so the youth may take possession of the firearm at the appropriate time to shoot. Kinda hard to do that, when both are tramping about for pheasants?
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Post by Dutch on Oct 23, 2018 19:50:34 GMT -5
The MY program in Pennsylvania is one of the most restrictive in the country.
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Post by davet on Oct 23, 2018 19:56:10 GMT -5
Pheasants.....what?...nothing more than glorified ditch chickens.
You wanna hunt real pheasants.....go to a state where they are wild.
The PGC stocks like 220,000 ditch chickens each year......for what? Me thinks it's to keep the guys my age (60 and on) hunting so they can remember the days when pheasant hunting was real.
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Post by Dutch on Oct 24, 2018 17:26:37 GMT -5
Pheasants.....what?...nothing more than glorified ditch chickens. You wanna hunt real pheasants.....go to a state where they are wild. The PGC stocks like 220,000 ditch chickens each year......for what? Me thinks it's to keep the guys my age (60 and on) hunting so they can remember the days when pheasant hunting was real. Ask the guys that hunt them, they get real wild real quick
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 17:36:42 GMT -5
You will never see pheasant hunting such as we had in the 1960s again. Agriculture has changed, and there is no habitat for a wild, reproducing population. You hunt pheasants, you hunt stocked birds. Of course some of us also fish for trout?
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Oct 24, 2018 18:20:38 GMT -5
To some extent birds were always stocked , at lease in my part of Centre Co. on our farm, oh you always had a few left over that made it through the winter, but not many. We also had private citizens raising birds for the PGC. Those days are gone, but one can wish and reminisce. Would love to go back to my days of youth in the late 50's and early 60's, mostly I wish it for my grandson, to enjoy the overall freedoms, and the hunting and trapping that I enjoyed. To some extent the hunting is better, big game mostly, especially with todays bag limit, and deer everywhere. But most of us old timers cut our teeth on small game, and that is missing today. IMO it's the #1 reason why hunting has also diminished. But as muttey said, "agriculture has changed", and I don't see it returning to the days of yore.
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Post by davet on Oct 24, 2018 18:41:10 GMT -5
You will never see pheasant hunting such as we had in the 1960s again. Agriculture has changed, and there is no habitat for a wild, reproducing population. You hunt pheasants, you hunt stocked birds. Of course some of us also fish for trout? True that!! I fish for stockies....but there is nothing like latching onto a 7" native. They fight like a 24" stocked trout!!...Maybe better!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2018 18:44:56 GMT -5
Dave, I seldom fish stocked trout streams anymore. I spend most of my fishing time on the stream that runs past our camp. It is polluted with natives. What you said is spot on. The little critters are fighters for sure.
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Post by dougell on Oct 25, 2018 7:26:12 GMT -5
MYH is pretty much limited to situations where the youth and the mentor are stationary, so the youth may take possession of the firearm at the appropriate time to shoot. Kinda hard to do that, when both are tramping about for pheasants? It would be very easy and controllable to have a young kid with some basic gun handling experience hunt over a pointer.
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Post by grouse28 on Nov 3, 2018 21:52:08 GMT -5
There are a surprising number of pheasants stocked in the “wild pheasant states”, Dakotas, Montana, Kansas,etc. Yes the stocked pheasants are quite dumb the first two days after stocking. After that they are quite “wild”. The pheasant days in the US are waning, blame Ethanol for that, and very restrictive CRP regs. I hunted the last glory days of PA pheasants, but enjoy the stocked birds of today almost as much.
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Post by redarrow on Nov 4, 2018 6:23:59 GMT -5
Gobblerhunter, some of the best memories I have of my life as a boy are of sitting beside my dad looking and listening for squirrels and following him while he hunted rabbits. He did all the shooting, but he'd let me fetch the squirrels that fell when his .22 cracked and I'd carry a rabbit once in a while 'til he finally would talk me into putting it in the game pouch of his hunting coat.
I think teaching kids a love for the outdoors is one of the best gifts parents can give their children. And I think that some make a mistake by only taking a kid into the fields and forests when they are toting a gun, there is so much more.
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Post by dougell on Nov 5, 2018 16:36:44 GMT -5
While they should certainly learn to have an appreciation for those thing before they tote a gun,focusing the hunt on them is the key these days.
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Post by good ole boy on Nov 5, 2018 19:00:44 GMT -5
You will never see pheasant hunting such as we had in the 1960s again. Agriculture has changed, and there is no habitat for a wild, reproducing population. You hunt pheasants, you hunt stocked birds. Of course some of us also fish for trout? Farms around my place and mine aren,t different enough that it still would,t support em.The over running Coyotes and other predators like Fischers that we have now are the main reason they would never take hold.
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Post by redarrow on Nov 5, 2018 19:11:12 GMT -5
You can still find wild trout in PA. Some of the trout in places like Cedar and Slate Runs are the toughest I've ever fished over.
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Post by gobblerhunter on Nov 6, 2018 10:09:15 GMT -5
Well Saturday was the day. The plan was to go out looking for birds in the morning then let him hunt squirrels after that. We ended up with 3 grouse flushes and 2 woodcock flushes. But here is the kicker we have been out 4 times now and haven't seen a squirrel... How is that possible??? we have been having horrible luck with the weather every time with rain and wind but c'mon all the kid wants to do is shoot a tree rat. he did get to see a buck chasing a doe and a flock of turkey walked by
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