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Post by Loggy on Jun 22, 2018 18:16:07 GMT -5
Seems just like yesterday that last seasons lottery was here.  Well......will have 16 max preference points going into this one for whut that's worth(likely little  )!! Drawing is August 18. Best of luck to all who are in the lottery. |
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Post by ridgecommander on Jun 22, 2018 21:12:47 GMT -5
Max points as well. Hoping the Christmas card I sent to Rawley will pay off this year.
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Post by Loggy on Jun 23, 2018 18:00:07 GMT -5
Saw on another site a post re the odds of being drawn with various accumulated preference points but can't seem to point my finger on it. I do recollect though that's its still a very slim chance even with maximum point accumulation.
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Post by ridgecommander on Jun 23, 2018 18:35:33 GMT -5
Our system sucks. The points should be preference points.
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Post by Loggy on Jun 23, 2018 18:55:59 GMT -5
The PGC uses the words "preference points" both in its regulations and on a hunter's individual license PAL's history. Guess its a matter of nomenclature attached to the term points inasmuch if you're not drawn you get a "point" or entry thrown back into the lottery bin.
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Post by ridgecommander on Jun 23, 2018 19:02:18 GMT -5
Yeah, they use preference points in the language but our system is not a true preference point system like what is used out west.
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Post by Loggy on Jun 23, 2018 19:17:04 GMT -5
Sorta feeling lucky this year!! Wunder if you can put an advance "placeholder deposit" in with ECO?? |
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Post by ridgecommander on Jun 23, 2018 19:19:58 GMT -5
I have had my money set aside for a few years now. If I ever get drawn, ECO will be called in short order.
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Post by Loggy on Jun 23, 2018 19:26:00 GMT -5
My hunting buddy from Sullivan County was drawn for a cow tag several years ago and went with an individual local guide and was well pleased. Not sure if he's still guiding though. I'd feel more comfortable though with ECO in a likely once in a lifetime opportunity.
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Post by bushmaster on Jun 23, 2018 19:33:48 GMT -5
I've got 15 as well. Hope this is the year!
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Post by Loggy on Jun 23, 2018 19:43:20 GMT -5
Didn't add all the years up but guess I've invested bout $150 in the application process! Like they say...easy come..easy go!! lol
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Post by Dutch on Jun 26, 2018 19:18:12 GMT -5
Keep it up and you'll go broke!  |
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Post by Loggy on Jun 26, 2018 19:48:03 GMT -5
Especially if drawn!! |
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Post by dougell on Jun 27, 2018 7:39:41 GMT -5
I have had my money set aside for a few years now. If I ever get drawn, ECO will be called in short order. It's your money but I would never consider getting a guide unless it was for an area with little public access.These elk are primarily grazers.All you have to do is find one of the food plots and open areas and you'll find elk. |
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Post by Loggy on Jun 27, 2018 10:56:47 GMT -5
I have had my money set aside for a few years now. If I ever get drawn, ECO will be called in short order. It's your money but I would never consider getting a guide unless it was for an area with little public access.These elk are primarily grazers.All you have to do is find one of the food plots and open areas and you'll find elk. Yupper....its my money that's exactly why I would go a pro guide vs making several 400 mile round trips to scout an area(s), incur food/lodging costs on scouting trips in addition incurring similar costs on week of the hunt..... not even factoring in what my time is worth in addition to the benefits of hunting with a professional. It's really a nobrainer for someone who lives well outside of the hunting grounds in addition who has never set foot within the same. |
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Post by ridgecommander on Jun 27, 2018 12:05:48 GMT -5
I plan on going at it with a crossbow as my primary weapon if I ever get drawn so I will gladly pay someone that has done their homework and can keep tabs on the latest activity leading into the season.
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Post by dougell on Jun 27, 2018 13:22:39 GMT -5
It's really not necessary unless you expect someone to keep tabs on a big one for you.
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Post by turkeykiller on Jun 27, 2018 13:52:31 GMT -5
I've been told most of the private land in the elk zones has been leased to outfitters. Therefore without hiring one, you are limited to State Game and Forest lands. There are many farms in those zones which attract the elk with their crops.
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Post by ridgecommander on Jun 27, 2018 14:00:52 GMT -5
It's really not necessary unless you expect someone to keep tabs on a big one for you. Not only would I expect them to keep tabs on one, but to lasso it and tie it up to the biggest oak tree for me............ |
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Post by Loggy on Jun 27, 2018 14:24:47 GMT -5
I've been told most of the private land in the elk zones has been leased to outfitters. Therefore without hiring one, you are limited to State Game and Forest lands. There are many farms in those zones which attract the elk with their crops. Good point TK! I looked at some of the harvest maps & it seems a sizable portion of elk were harvested on private land. Clear delineation of numbers posted on maps were a little hard to read. Couldn't find a table breaking out actual numbers...... public vs private?? I'm sure it exists somewhere. |
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Post by dougell on Jun 27, 2018 14:28:55 GMT -5
I've been told most of the private land in the elk zones has been leased to outfitters. Therefore without hiring one, you are limited to State Game and Forest lands. There are many farms in those zones which attract the elk with their crops. No question about that.If the unit was mostly private,you'd probably want to hire a guide.Killing a cow or just a decent bull isn't rocket science.All you have to do is look at a google map,find food plots,some open areas or meadows and you'll find elk. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2018 17:02:02 GMT -5
If I get drawn I will not hire a guide. I've never hired a guide in my life. IMO hiring a guide reduces you to a trigger man. You get to pull the trigger on his animal that he earned.
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Post by Loggy on Jun 27, 2018 17:09:46 GMT -5
If I get drawn I will not hire a guide. I've never hired a guide in my life. IMO hiring a guide reduces you to a trigger man. You get to pull the trigger on his animal that he earned. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2018 20:44:31 GMT -5
You may find it funny but that's my opinion. If I hired a guide I'd feel like they let me shoot their animal. And worse than that, I paid them for the privilege. I want my own animal.
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Post by Loggy on Jun 28, 2018 6:04:34 GMT -5
If I get drawn I will not hire a guide. I've never hired a guide in my life. IMO hiring a guide reduces you to a trigger man. You get to pull the trigger on his animal that he earned. I have only ever hired a guide for 4 hunts during my 50 plus year hunting span. Three of the hunts were in TN for muzzleloader wild boar hunts using dogs & one in AL for deer. Your opinion that you are merely a "trigger man" is far from the truth based on my actual experience. Many who never used a guide have this erroneous perception which is certainly their prerogative. Same goes for my experience with fishing guides. |
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