30-06 --125 grain Sierra / Going to pull them down .

[dougell]

Mike,I shot a doe one time with a 165gr IL at about 50 yards.I have no idea what happened but I hit her right in the ribs and the entrance hole was as big as a volleyball and no exit.It was actually pretty morbid.Still can't figure that one out other than thinking the jacket just instantly separated from the core.

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Bullet failure. Its not uncommon and happens with them all. But when a ttsx fails it doesn't open up.

[dougell]

There's no way it won't open up.

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Do a Google search. There are dozens and dozens of stories of TTSX's not opening up on game.

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I did a search, Mike. You can find stories about them not opening up, but it seems most folks who have used them found them to be good bullets. The biggest criticism of using them for whitetails is that you don't need that tough a bullet for deer and that they are not worth the higher price. I will stick with Sierra Game King bullets, but I am skeptical of claims that they don't open up. I have a bunch of them I have recovered from African game and a few (Photos of which I posted) from deer. I will stand by what I said before, that being Barnes bullets work best at higher velocities. If they work for Doug and he is happy with them he should keep using them.
Deer are not hard to kill if they are hit right. Even if a bullet does not expand, if it goes through both lungs the animal will be a dead one. My buddy Larry uses 130 grain ttsx bullets in his .270. At .270 velocities they work fine for him, and he has not lost a deer yet when using them.

[Dutch]

Game Kings have served me well on deer.

Last year, I used Ballistic Tips for the first time. They are junk. Still blame them for my miss. LOL

[dougell]

I'm sure there are but unless you recover the bullet,there's no way to tell if that happened.Most of those storied are from people who made a poor hit,lost the animal and then blamed the bullet,saying it didn't open.Either that or they see a small exit wound which just means the bullet shed the pedals after opening and punched the shank through.We've killed over 20 deer with them the last three years from 10 yards to almost 250 yards from 55gr to 150gr and every bullet performed exactly as advertised.I hear dozens and dozens of stories about mechanical broadheads not opening but I have no idea how that could happen unless they're glued or rusted shut.People like to blame their own failures on inanimate objects.

[Dutch]

I actually did have a mechanical that didn't open. Punch a big hole in a doe, she died, but the blade channels were clean as a whistle when I opened the Spitfire up

[Dutch]

You wanna killed a deer, shoot it square in the shoulder. They don't run, your bullet blows up, and they drop in their tracks. To hell with meat, I want a dead deer

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Here, on the right, is an example of what I would call bullet failure, and it was a Nosler Ballistic tip. After that, I gave the rest of the ballistic tip bullets away. The lead core of the bullet separated from the jacket.  The bullet on the left was a Speer Grand Slam and it expanded perfectly.  Both were 180 grain bullets shot out of my .30-06.

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I wouldn't try to talk anyone out of TTSX's. But you have to keep the velocities high. A lot of the failures seem to come well below 2,500 fps.

[dougell]

A .308 shooting a 150gr bullet has a mv of about 2800 fps+/-.At 250 yards,it has about 2200 fps.I can tell you from experience that they open up nicely at that velocity.My son shot three doe this year that were out there a little ways 188 yards,168yards and 248 yards.Two dropped like a concrete cloud and one made it about 10 yards.The lungs on all three were shredded.If I remember tonight,I'll take a picture of the one I recovered.I don't consider a .308 to be a high velocity round.If you click on the picture of the one doe he shot,you can see a nice exit wound and you can also see that it was a broadside shot through the ribs with no heavy bone to hit.I don't know what to tell you other than a lot of people are full of crap and excuses.They expand well.

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I won't argue. I never used a tsx or ttsx. I just hear a lot of complaints.