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Post by flounder on Feb 12, 2018 11:58:43 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2018 20:49:29 GMT -5
www.publicopiniononline.com/story/news/2018/01/29/deer-hunters-deer-farmers-question-shooting-30-deer/1076587001/FAYETTEVILLE -- The Pennsylvania Game Commission’s plan to kill 30 wild deer outside a private deer preserve has fueled tempers on both sides of the fence. Some deer farmers suspect the Game Commission is targeting them for the continued presence of chronic wasting disease in the wild herd. CWD is fatal to deer and elk. Some hunters also have questioned the commission's intent of shooting 30 white-tailed deer at night, over bait. The Game Commission would penalize poachers thousands of dollars and the loss of hunting privileges for using similar tactics. “Is slaughtering the herd simply to reduce the deer herd size?” said Brian Brown of Bedford County. “Are the bureaucrats in Harrisburg attempting to eliminate our hunting heritage?” The Game Commission has said the sampling of 30 deer is necessary for detecting CWD in the wild herd. Certified CWD testing is reliable only with parts of dead deer. Wildlife control technicians with the U.S. Department of Agriculture are to conduct the shoot before March. So far, 51 deer taken during Pennsylvania’s 2017-18 hunting seasons have tested positive for CWD. That’s twice as many last year, and more deer remain to be tested. “It’s an alarming rate as far as the state deer herd,” said Robert Koontz of Whitetail Refuge LLC in Guilford Township. “It’s not the deer farms that have the problem. It’s the Game Commission and the state of Pennsylvania."
His deer farm is under quarantine after four captive deer there tested positive for CWD. Deer farmers are required to test all animals that die.Forty-four captive deer have been confirmed to have CWD since the disease was discovered on an Adams County deer farm in 2012. Around the same time the disease made its way north from West Virginia and Maryland to wild deer in Bedford County, and Pennsylvania had its first positive in a wild deer. CWD has been found in 23 states. Koontz said he suspects that the game commission’s action in Guilford Township is a ploy to show hunters that the commission is trying to do something about CWD. "People tried to fix it for years. It has to run its course," Koontz said. "I’ll tell you what CWD stands for: Commission Wasting Dollars." Sen. Richard Alloway II, R-Chambersburg, and a member of the Senate Game and Fisheries Committee, has received limited feedback on the commission’s plan that was made public Sunday, according to Alloway's Chief of Staff Jeremy Shoemaker. Opinions have varied. “This is a serious issue that cannot be solved without hunters’ support and input,” Alloway said. “We need to do all that we can to prevent the spread of this awful disease.” The Game Commission is to hold a public meeting on CWD after the test results from the deer seasons and the 30 deer become available. Forty-eight of the CWD positives in wild deer have been in Disease Management Area 2, which includes Franklin County. Three were in DMA 3, near the state's elk range. Jim Hook, 717-262-4759
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Post by Dutch on Feb 14, 2018 6:12:23 GMT -5
Yeah, it's not the deer farmers.
Then how come it showed up on a deer farm here in Lancaster County?
Shut them all down!
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Post by 3212 on Feb 14, 2018 6:56:01 GMT -5
Those deer farmers are lucky I'm not in charge.It would be scorched earth.
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Post by 3212 on Feb 14, 2018 8:31:32 GMT -5
I wanted to take my grandsons hunting in my favorite area of PA.I think that's out.The people in Florida don't want venison from PA now.My other option is a friends property in Georgia which does not allow import of whitetail deer.No CWD there so far.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2018 9:58:46 GMT -5
Yeah, it's not the deer farmers. Then how come it showed up on a deer farm here in Lancaster County? Shut them all down! Unfortunately this would be akin to locking the barn door after the horse was stolen. The opportunity to prevent the spread of CWD was twenty years ago. It is here now. Blame can be shared, but the primary cause of the rapid spread was deer farming and fenced hunts, regardless of how Robert Koontz tries to spin it. Now, having said that, I agree that all deer farming should be shut down now, and fenced operations put out of business. They are the places where CWD is growing and from which it is spreading. Brad Gsell (Gsell's whitetails) got out of that business at a perfect time. |
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Post by dougell on Feb 14, 2018 10:15:00 GMT -5
They just found another CWD road kill up here in Jefferson county.Maybe just a coincidence but it was found pretty close to a place with captive deer.They killed another wild one this past summer not too far away in Clearfield county on SGL 87.I'm 100% postive that one was infected by captive deer that were let loose.Shut them down.Is it just me or are there others who just want to punch that ignoramous Keith Warren every time he opens up his pie hole?
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Post by 3212 on Feb 14, 2018 10:48:51 GMT -5
You can thank that ignorant deer farmer somewhere south of you who released his trophy buck to breed the wild does.
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Post by Dutch on Feb 14, 2018 11:07:23 GMT -5
New York had ONE case of CWD in 2005, took strict measures, and that was the end of it.
Here is PA we screwed around and look what happened.
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Post by flounder on Feb 15, 2018 18:43:35 GMT -5
New York had ONE case of CWD in 2005, took strict measures, and that was the end of it. Here is PA we screwed around and look what happened. actually, here are the correct figures for New York early on; 2005 *** First case of CWD in New York: ***In early April, the first case of CWD was confirmed in five white-tailed deer from two captive breeding facilities in Oneida County. After detection, a containment area was imposed around the infected area in Madison and Oneida counties (Wildlife Management Unit 6P), with a mandatory deer check for harvested deer. Other activities were prohibited, including movement of intact carcasses outside the containment area, possession and use of deer or elk urine taken from the containment area, deer rehabilitation, possession of a deer killed by a motor vehicle, and requirements for taxidermist record-keeping and contact barriers with live cervids. In addition to amending the CWD regulation (Part 189) for the containment area, the regulation also prohibited importation of whole hunter-harvested carcasses from states where CWD had been detected. It also provided DEC with options to better address threats posed by CWD to New York's wild white-tailed deer. An intensive monitoring program was established by DEC to sample deer in the infected area. Monitoring efforts for the month of April resulted in testing 290 deer samples from Oneida County, 2 from Madison County, and 25 from Hamilton County. *** In late April, two wild white-tailed deer were confirmed to have CWD within the infected area. snip... chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2017/12/chronic-wasting-disease-cwd-tse-prion.htmli don't think final hunt for 2017-2018 cwd test results are in yet for NY...terry |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 19:05:30 GMT -5
I will agree with those who would close down all fenced operations. They caused this problem. Why should they not be penalized for doing so?
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Post by Dutch on Feb 15, 2018 19:12:53 GMT -5
I will agree with those who would close down all fenced operations. They caused this problem. Why should they not be penalized for doing so? One of my customers has deer. They are fenced, in a woods. One tree falls on that fence, they are free to leave. If they have CWD....... |
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Post by 3212 on Feb 15, 2018 19:14:19 GMT -5
Are they double fenced?
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Post by Dutch on Feb 15, 2018 19:16:46 GMT -5
No, not that I saw. Even with a double fence, a big oak comes down and they get out
Up by Speedwell Lake
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Post by 3212 on Feb 15, 2018 19:41:56 GMT -5
Yeah,thats what happened in Wisconsin to at least one herd.The double fence is to prevent nose to nose contact with wild deer.
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Post by Dutch on Feb 15, 2018 20:37:37 GMT -5
I agree with the double fence for the nose to nose
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Post by flounder on Feb 16, 2018 12:09:22 GMT -5
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