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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 9:12:50 GMT -5
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Post by davet on Jan 7, 2018 14:37:23 GMT -5
Nice truck Mutt. It's an antique now....and qualifies for Pa. antique plates!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 16:14:26 GMT -5
Yes, it does, Dave. The problem is that if you put antique plates on it you are limited in how much you can use it to do work. This puppy is a work truck, and is still in great shape to work.
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Post by buzz on Jan 7, 2018 18:26:08 GMT -5
I'm thinking Denny should buy it along with the two horse trailer, and he could haul that donkey Dutch and his brother up to camp on his way up........  stirthepot |
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Post by dennyf on Jan 7, 2018 18:41:19 GMT -5
No thanks! Had two Dodge trucks, both bought from dad who had bought them new. The '73 wasn't too bad, although I had to yank the heads off the 318 for a valve job at less than 60,000 miles and replaced the timing chain while I had it apart. Rust bucket bed, when it was 7 years old. Also bought his '84 LAMB, slant six. No power and crappy fuel mileage. Tranny went teats-up at less than 70,000 miles and it was starting to rust. Both of them had ignition issues and the '84 had persistant emission system failures that let 'ya sit, from the time it was new. Solved that problem, bypassed the junk parts. On the upside, the starter on the '84 sometimes called ringnecks in from the woods out back.  Buddy has had several new RAMs over the past ten years. Usually he and I would get new trucks about the same time. He always carped about the lousy fuel mileage, compared to what I was getting with my new Chebby. Finally has one now (2018) that does almost as good as my 2014. Good luck unloading it, mutt. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2018 19:46:54 GMT -5
I won't give it away, Denny. I would rather sell the Chevy, actually. I have never had a Chevy that didn't eventually have big problems. This Dodge has been pretty much worry free.
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Post by buzz on Jan 7, 2018 19:58:39 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2018 22:48:17 GMT -5
If I had the money I'd buy it.
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Post by dennyf on Jan 10, 2018 0:06:11 GMT -5
Never owned a Chebbie that I had to walk away from, buzz. Can't say the same for either Dodge? The '73 had the infamous Mopar ballast resistor on the firewall. First time it died, I walked. From that day forward there was a new one in the glove box, waiting for its turn. '84 wouldn't crank one day in a parking lot, thought the battery had suddenly gone dead. Guy tried to jump it for me, still wouldn't turn over. Took a few minutes to figure out why - ground strap to the frame was loose. Lock washer had broken and fell off, so it didn't have a tight connection. Bear to get at, as it bolted to the frame UNDER a motor mount where you couldn't see it. Finally solved that issue. Drilled another hole in the frame, tapped it and fastened the strap where I could see the damn thing. Just the first of numerous issues I had with that thing. It quit on dad four times in one weekend at camp, when it was still new. Charcoal emission canister was barfing granules into the carb, instead of drawing off gas vapors. Two different Dodge dealers up there couldn't figure it out. My bud the diesel mechanic and I did, two seconds after tearing the carb apart and finding charcoal in it. We went up to hunt 'chucks, the old man was on the verge of a fit over his new LAMB quitting on him. Disconnected the canister tubing, plugged the vacuum line, good to go. Dealer replaced the canister when dad got back home. Did it again. That time I put a generic fuel filter in the vacuum line from the canister, ended that BS. Tranny going teats up was the last straw, down the road it went to the next happy owner. After problems with two other Dodge and Plymouth cars, dad switched to Buicks and liver happily ever after. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 6:23:42 GMT -5
Ah, brand loyalty. It is a wonderful thing, especially for the company that makes the brand. LMAO2
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 6:23:53 GMT -5
Ah, brand loyalty. It is a wonderful thing, especially for the company that makes the brand. LMAO2
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Post by Dutch on Jan 10, 2018 7:00:54 GMT -5
Comparing any vehicle made in the 70s and 80s to todays vehicles ain't fair.
That said, stuff made by MOPAR still isn't highly rated.
Hell, I don't even know what the brand is called nowadays.
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Post by Dutch on Jan 10, 2018 7:02:54 GMT -5
Frame rusted out on my 2000 chevy. Rocker panels rusted out in 7 years or so, as did the bumper.
That said, it hit 200,000 miles, before the frame killed it. Sold it to a guy from West Virginia.
My work vans are Chevies. 4.8L engine. We use a PTO type setup to run our carpet cleaning machines. My 2005 has well over 400,000 equivalent miles on its engine.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 8:53:49 GMT -5
I'd buy Dodge without hesitation and I'm a Ford guy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 9:09:16 GMT -5
I could care less what I drive, as long as it gets me from a to b. I do have to like how it looks though.
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Post by dennyf on Jan 10, 2018 11:09:09 GMT -5
If "brand loyalty" means continuing to buy what has worked well in the past, then that's how she rolls around here?
Anything that had caused problems in the past, never gets another chance.
I've had two recalls on the Chevys over the past ten years. One for seat belt retractors, one for the electric power steering (computer glitch, needed a reboot), although neither of my trucks had that issue, took 'em in anyway.
RAM has 1.8 million units on recall now for transmission-related issues. There have been lots of other recalls over the past several years on them.
Back in the late 90s, a buddy's son had his newish Dodge 4x4 replaced under the Lemon Law, for repeated automatic tranny issues. The replacement truck had the same problem within a year. So he got a new Ford F250 diesel 4x4. Knocked the tranny outta that one, too. It was eventually the subject of a recall for a tranny replacement.
No manufacturer is immune from such problems. Some are just worse than others? If ya got a good one, doesn't matter what the emblem says.
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Post by Dutch on Jan 10, 2018 15:19:14 GMT -5
Rams and Jeeps do have low ratings, in general.
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Post by Dutch on Jan 10, 2018 15:22:10 GMT -5
Bought a Dodge Van in 1980, 360 in it. Had it Zeibarted to boot.
What a dog. Give it gas and it bogged down, then caught.
When I bought the business, I sold it to my uncle in 1984, maybe? Thing was rusting out already.
They put a Holley carb on it, patched the rust.
He is STILL running the thing.
135,000 miles or so
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Post by Dutch on Jan 10, 2018 15:25:17 GMT -5
Bought a used Dodge Caravan, when we had a kid. 4 years later, took it to W. Virgina. Tranny went out, limped it back. Bought another new Caravan, took it to W. Virginia again, tranny problems. Haven't been in W VA since. LOL
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Post by dennyf on Jan 10, 2018 15:38:01 GMT -5
One of my Potter cousins that moved down here years ago, ran expedited freight after he quit driving OTR rigs. Had a Mack Midliner box truck and a Dodge one ton van. That Dodge had over 400,000 on it when he traded it on a Ford. Brakes, tires and normal maintenance on the Dodge all that time. IIRC, one water pump and one fuel pump? Got a new Ford van because he couldn't make a deal on another Dodge and the Ford was much cheaper. That first Ford van shook like crazy above maybe 65 MPH. Had it back to several Ford dealers, no joy. Finally took it to a local drive line shop here. Drive shaft wasn't balanced properly, they took care of that. He's retired from that business now, but still has his last Ford one ton van. Well over 300,000 on it and still going. Mostly uses it to pull their RV now. Two years ago he and two brothers were up on the Potter lot where we have our reunions. One had left with his RV, other one already had his 4x4 hooked up to his camper. Had to hook my Silverado to the Ford van and pull him out onto the twp. road. Van wouldn't move on the wet field, with the RV behind it. His wife wanted to take a picture of me pulling him out, camera was in the RV. Told her to get back in the van, or she'd have to ride back downstate with me. Said if he knew me, I'd have a poster made of the tow photo and bring it to the reunion that Labor Day. |
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Post by rem700 on Jan 10, 2018 16:37:22 GMT -5
Mutts truck is from back when trucks were trucks and looks very nice too
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Post by Dutch on Jan 10, 2018 17:13:12 GMT -5
Mutts truck is from back when trucks were trucks and looks very nice too It sure does. |
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Post by dougell on Jan 30, 2018 13:44:24 GMT -5
I grew up in a GM household and my father hated anything with a Chrysler tag on it.Since the mid 90's,I've owned multiple 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton silverado's and sierra's and never had an issue.I maintain them but pound the crap out of them.I once towed a horse trailer to Cleveland Ohio on dry roads,in 4wd and never went below 75mph.I pulled into a McDonalds,noticed the front end binding a little bit and said oh sheet.The tranny got so hot that transmission fluid was spraying all over the place out of a breather.That was 8 years ago and my buddy is still driving that truck.I sold it to him,4 years ago and bought a duramax diesel.That was a great truck until two years ago,I had my son backing up a hay wagon.I wasn't thinking about it at the time but he wasn't tall enough to see good behind him and ended up jack knifing the wagon into my bedside.The truck looked good up until that point but when he hit the bed,it was totally trashed underneath,That's no fault of the truck.It's the crap they spray on the roads.I ended up practically giving that truck away and bought a new Ram 2500 with a 6.4 Hemi.It's comfortable,rides nice,has a ton of power and I avaerage about 13 mpg just running around.i'VE HAD IT A YEAR AND A HALF SO THE JURY IS STILL OUT ON IT BUT i'D BUY ANOTHER ONE AT THIS POINT.
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Post by GlennD on Jan 30, 2018 13:59:18 GMT -5
We all have opinions, based on experience, good and bad.  I have had very good luck with GM cars and trucks. Sometimes I think that "good luck" has a little to do with how a vehicle is treated and maintained. Every manufacturer has issues. Some only annoying, some expensive, some dangerous. My Niece is in the middle of one now. She bought a 2014 Kia Optima. It has an engine recall. She is currently without her car for an estimated two weeks while they replace the engine. Seems there are some bearing issues that cause the engine to lock up with the potential of loss of vehicle control. You would think after all these years they could make engine bearings that are machined correctly and oiling systems that will not cause seizure. :/ |
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Post by davet on Jan 30, 2018 18:30:26 GMT -5
My Niece is in the middle of one now. She bought a 2014 Kia Optima. It has an engine recall. She is currently without her car for an estimated two weeks while they replace the engine. If you look at the history of KIA in the US, the first two years their unit sales exploded because of the cheap price of their vehicles. In the following years sales dropped like a rock due to inferior quality, and constant repairs needed on the vehicles. It seems to follow that you can't get something for nothing. So...you can't buy a new car (today) for $12,000 and expect to get ten years of trouble free driving out of it. The inconvenience of the car in the shop every other month and "hoping" that you get a free loaner car while it's in.....is the COST of buying an inferior product. |
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