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Post by 3212 on Jul 15, 2017 13:11:45 GMT -5
Thanks for the video.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 11:57:39 GMT -5
Boy, I can hardly wait for the reaction to this one.
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Post by flounder on Jul 16, 2017 11:58:21 GMT -5
My concern now is not how it got here.My concern now is how they(both agencies) are responding to it. Sunday, January 06, 2013 USDA TO PGC ONCE CAPTIVES ESCAPE *** "it‘s no longer its business.” chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2013/01/usda-to-pgc-once-captives-escape-its-no.html ”The occurrence of CWD must be viewed against the contest of the locations in which it occurred. It was an incidental and unwelcome complication of the respective wildlife research programmes. Despite it’s subsequent recognition as a new disease of cervids, therefore justifying direct investigation, no specific research funding was forthcoming. The USDA veiwed it as a wildlife problem and consequently not their province!” page 26. collections.europarchive.org/tna/20080102193705/http://www.bseinquiry.gov.uk/files/mb/m11b/tab01.pdfTHURSDAY, JUNE 01, 2017 PENNSYLVANIA Third Case of CWD Discovered in a Captive Deer Farm in Four Months chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2017/06/pennsylvania-third-case-of-cwd.htmlMONDAY, MAY 15, 2017 Pennsylvania 25 more deer test positive for CWD TSE PRION in the wild chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2017/05/pennsylvania-25-more-deer-test-positive.htmlWEDNESDAY, MARCH 01, 2017 South central Pennsylvania Captive Deer Tests Positive for Chronic Wasting Disease chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2017/03/south-central-pennsylvania-captive-deer.htmlFRIDAY, JANUARY 13, 2017 Pennsylvania Deer Tests Positive for Chronic Wasting Disease four-year-old white-tailed deer Franklin County Hunting Preserve chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2017/01/pennsylvania-deer-tests-positive-for.htmlWednesday, May 11, 2016 PENNSYLVANIA TWELVE MORE CASES OF CWD FOUND: STATE GEARS UP FOR ADDITIONAL CONTROL MEASURES chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2016/05/pennsylvania-twelve-more-cases-of-cwd.htmlSunday, October 18, 2015 *** Pennsylvania Game Commission Law and Law Makers CWD TSE PRION Bans Singeltary 2002 from speaking A smelly situation UPDATED 2015 chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2015/10/pennsylvania-game-commission-law-and.html Saturday, November 07, 2015 PENNSYLVANIA CHRONIC WASTING DISEASE CWD TSE PRION RULES EXPAND chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2015/11/pennsylvania-chronic-wasting-disease.html Saturday, November 07, 2015 Pennsylvania 2015 September Minutes CWD Urine Scents chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2015/11/pennsylvania-2015-september-minutes-cwd.html Tuesday, May 05, 2015 Pennsylvania CWD DETECTED IN SIX MORE FREE-RANGING DEER Disease Management Area 2 again expanded due to new cases Release #030-15 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October 18, 2012, still ongoing, Lake Charles premises. chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2013/05/chronic-wasting-disease-cwd-quarantine.html Wednesday, November 14, 2012 PENNSYLVANIA 2012 THE GREAT ESCAPE OF CWD INVESTIGATION MOVES INTO LOUISIANA and INDIANA chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2012/11/pennsylvania-2012-great-escape-of-cwd_14.html Tuesday, October 23, 2012 PA Captive deer from CWD-positive farm roaming free chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2012/10/pa-captive-deer-from-cwd-positive-farm.html Thursday, October 11, 2012 Pennsylvania Confirms First Case CWD Adams County Captive Deer Tests Positive chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2012/10/pennsylvania-confirms-first-case-cwd.htmlFriday, February 05, 2016 *** Report of the Committee on Wildlife Diseases FY2015 CWD TSE PRION Detections in Farmed Cervids and Wild *** chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2016/02/report-of-committee-on-wildlife.htmlWednesday, February 10, 2016 Wisconsin Two deer that escaped farm had chronic wasting disease CWD chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2016/02/wisconsin-two-deer-that-escaped-farm.htmlMONDAY, MARCH 20, 2017 Wisconsin CWD TSE Prion Annual Roundup 441 positive chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2017/03/wisconsin-cwd-tse-prion-annual-roundup.htmlWEDNESDAY, MAY 31, 2017 Texas New Exotic CWD Susceptible Species Rules Now in Effect chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2017/05/texas-new-exotic-cwd-susceptible.htmlMONDAY, MAY 15, 2017 TEXAS New CWD TSE PRION Case Discovered at Fifth Captive Deer Breeding Facility chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2017/05/texas-new-cwd-tse-prion-case-discovered.htmlSUNDAY, MAY 14, 2017 85th Legislative Session 2017 AND THE TEXAS TWO STEP Chronic Wasting Disease CWD TSE Prion, and paying to play chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2017/05/85th-legislative-session-2017-and-texas.htmlFRIDAY, MARCH 31, 2017 TPWD UPDATE CWD TSE Prion 49 confirmed cases and unwanted firsts for Texas 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Post by flounder on Jul 16, 2017 11:59:38 GMT -5
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Post by 3212 on Jul 16, 2017 15:15:14 GMT -5
The "wasting disease" was first noticed in mule deer in Colorado, back in the late 60s. It was eventually identified as CWD in the 70s. IIRC, the initial CWD discoveries were found in western, captive elk back then? Given that farmed cervids have been shipped back and forth between multiple states for years, I'd have to say the practice has played a crucial role in the spread of CWD into about 30 some states and provinces by now. Anyone that claims it hasn't played a role, still has their head where the sun doesn't shine. My opinion, cervid farming here in PA, should've been halted when CWD showed up in PA. And beyond that, it was a critical mistake for the Legislature to have taken cervid farming away from PGC and handing it off to Ag. My son-in-law in Georgia says they have a strict no-import policy for any deer.They are located farther from endemic areas than we are and had plenty of warning.So far it hasn't shown up there.They prohibit canned hunts and baiting,discourage supplemental feeding and encourage high doe harvest to thin the herd.Georgia hunters travel to western states and have brought their harvest back without introducing cwd so far. |
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Post by 3212 on Jul 17, 2017 0:03:50 GMT -5
An example of how ridiculous deer farming can become was found in Wisconsin in 2016.The state of Wisconsin paid $298,000 to kill 228 deer held in a 10 acre pen.33 were found to be infected with CWD.12 had escaped in the previous year but were found and killed.
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Post by fleroo on Jul 17, 2017 8:59:19 GMT -5
We've got two agencies running this show.The dept of agriculture is concerned with maintaining a farming operation and the game commission is concerned with maintaining a wild herd.IMO not a good situation since deer are a wild animal and should never have been farmed. So are pheasants, bison, salmon, oysters, quail, trout, talapia etc.... Should we never farm them either? Heck even modern farmed pigs, chickens, beef all originated from wild stock. The antis wish there to not be any farming of any animals. If we start with deer, where does it stop? All farmed animals are prone to disease. The answer is strict enforcement and regulation of all farmed animals. When we stop farming wildlife, more pressure will be put on wild stocks. That does not bode well for the future of those species. A significant percentage of deer are farmed for food. A number of bad diseases have come from farmed animals. Swine flu, avian flu, mad cow etc..... All having the potential to cripple other animal populations and potentially cause illness to humans. No one called for the stoppage of farming those animals except the antis. I thought the very same thing. The Deer are what are talked about, and on the forefront to "us", because we hunt them, and we are on an outdoor message board. Disease can, and does happen, on anything "farmed". Wasn't it China, a few years back, that had to wipe out their entire base of farmed chickens due the Avian Flu ? How about Llama's for their coats, or goats ? The possibilities for disease going from "farmed" to "wild" are endless. As you suggested. Strict regulations and guidelines have to be the answer ? |
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Post by ridgecommander on Jul 17, 2017 9:29:08 GMT -5
So are pheasants, bison, salmon, oysters, quail, trout, talapia etc.... Should we never farm them either? Heck even modern farmed pigs, chickens, beef all originated from wild stock. The antis wish there to not be any farming of any animals. If we start with deer, where does it stop? All farmed animals are prone to disease. The answer is strict enforcement and regulation of all farmed animals. When we stop farming wildlife, more pressure will be put on wild stocks. That does not bode well for the future of those species. A significant percentage of deer are farmed for food. A number of bad diseases have come from farmed animals. Swine flu, avian flu, mad cow etc..... All having the potential to cripple other animal populations and potentially cause illness to humans. No one called for the stoppage of farming those animals except the antis. I thought the very same thing. The Deer are what are talked about, and on the forefront to "us", because we hunt them, and we are on an outdoor message board. Disease can, and does happen, on anything "farmed". Wasn't it China, a few years back, that had to wipe out their entire base of farmed chickens due the Avian Flu ? How about Llama's for their coats, or goats ? The possibilities for disease going from "farmed" to "wild" are endless. As you suggested. Strict regulations and guidelines have to be the answer ? Yep. |
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Post by flounder on Jul 17, 2017 10:22:02 GMT -5
An example of how ridiculous deer farming can become was found in Wisconsin in 2016.The state of Wisconsin paid $298,000 to kill 228 deer held in a 10 acre pen.33 were found to be infected with CWD.12 had escaped in the previous year but were found and killed. Wednesday, February 10, 2016 Wisconsin Two deer that escaped farm had chronic wasting disease CWD chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2016/02/wisconsin-two-deer-that-escaped-farm.htmlMONDAY, MARCH 20, 2017 Wisconsin CWD TSE Prion Annual Roundup 441 positive chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2017/03/wisconsin-cwd-tse-prion-annual-roundup.htmlINFORM: Cervid Health and States Indemnity FY 2015 USDA Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service sent this bulletin at 09/19/2014 05:22 PM EDT Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS), Veterinary Services (VS) received a total of $3 million in appropriated funding to support cervid health activities in fiscal year (FY) 2014, and made approximately $1.0 million of this funding available for indemnity of chronic wasting disease (CWD) positive, suspect, and exposed farmed cervids. All of the available FY2014 indemnity funding was used to depopulate three CWD-infected herds. However, several States have asked about the availability of Federal indemnity funds for CWD-exposed animals in the future. VS plans to offer Federal indemnity for CWD-exposed cervids beginning in FY2015. Briefly, we will prioritize the highest risk CWD-exposed animals for indemnity based on the availability of funding. Any newly reported CWD-positive herds will be considered for indemnity as they are identified, based first on funding availability and secondly on the risk presented by the herd. We will reassess our fiscal year funding on a quarterly basis so that providing indemnity for exposed animals does not exhaust available funding early in the fiscal year. By taking this fiscally cautious approach, we hope to provide indemnity for positive herds identified later in the fiscal year while removing high-risk animals from the landscape as soon as possible to minimize the risk for disease spread. Further, removal and testing of these exposed animals will provide a better understanding of the disease risk presented by these animals/herds. VS plans to work with our State and industry stakeholders on the criteria to assess the risk and on the process through which States can request this indemnity. These will be finalized in a VS Guidance Document in the near future. We look forward to working with you to implement this process in the coming year. *** content.govdelivery.com/accounts/USDAAPHIS/bulletins/d05806how many states have $465,000., and can quarantine and purchase there from, each cwd said infected farm, but how many states can afford this for all the cwd infected cervid game ranch type farms  Tuesday, December 20, 2011 CHRONIC WASTING DISEASE CWD WISCONSIN Almond Deer (Buckhorn Flats) Farm Update DECEMBER 2011 The CWD infection rate was nearly 80%, the highest ever in a North American captive herd. RECOMMENDATION: That the Board approve the purchase of 80 acres of land for $465,000 for the Statewide Wildlife Habitat Program in Portage County and approve the restrictions on public use of the site. SUMMARY: dnr.wi.gov/about/nrb/2011/december/12-11-2b2.pdf*** We conclude that TSE infectivity is likely to survive burial for long time periods with minimal loss of infectivity and limited movement from the original burial site. However PMCA results have shown that there is the potential for rainwater to elute TSE related material from soil which could lead to the contamination of a wider area. These experiments reinforce the importance of risk assessment when disposing of TSE risk materials. *** The results show that even highly diluted PrPSc can bind efficiently to polypropylene, stainless steel, glass, wood and stone and propagate the conversion of normal prion protein. For in vivo experiments, hamsters were ic injected with implants incubated in 1% 263K-infected brain homogenate. Hamsters, inoculated with 263K-contaminated implants of all groups, developed typical signs of prion disease, whereas control animals inoculated with non-contaminated materials did not. PRION 2014 CONFERENCE chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2014/10/iowa-test-results-from-captive-deer.htmlINFORM: Cervid Health and States Indemnity FY 2015 USDA Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service sent this bulletin at 09/19/2014 05:22 PM EDT Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service (APHIS), Veterinary Services (VS) received a total of $3 million in appropriated funding to support cervid health activities in fiscal year (FY) 2014, and made approximately $1.0 million of this funding available for indemnity of chronic wasting disease (CWD) positive, suspect, and exposed farmed cervids. All of the available FY2014 indemnity funding was used to depopulate three CWD-infected herds. However, several States have asked about the availability of Federal indemnity funds for CWD-exposed animals in the future. VS plans to offer Federal indemnity for CWD-exposed cervids beginning in FY2015. Briefly, we will prioritize the highest risk CWD-exposed animals for indemnity based on the availability of funding. Any newly reported CWD-positive herds will be considered for indemnity as they are identified, based first on funding availability and secondly on the risk presented by the herd. We will reassess our fiscal year funding on a quarterly basis so that providing indemnity for exposed animals does not exhaust available funding early in the fiscal year. By taking this fiscally cautious approach, we hope to provide indemnity for positive herds identified later in the fiscal year while removing high-risk animals from the landscape as soon as possible to minimize the risk for disease spread. Further, removal and testing of these exposed animals will provide a better understanding of the disease risk presented by these animals/herds. VS plans to work with our State and industry stakeholders on the criteria to assess the risk and on the process through which States can request this indemnity. These will be finalized in a VS Guidance Document in the near future. We look forward to working with you to implement this process in the coming year. *** content.govdelivery.com/accounts/USDAAPHIS/bulletins/d05806how many states have $465,000., and can quarantine and purchase there from, each cwd said infected farm, but how many states can afford this for all the cwd infected cervid game ranch type farms Tuesday, December 20, 2011 CHRONIC WASTING DISEASE CWD WISCONSIN Almond Deer (Buckhorn Flats) Farm Update DECEMBER 2011 The CWD infection rate was nearly 80%, the highest ever in a North American captive herd. RECOMMENDATION: That the Board approve the purchase of 80 acres of land for $465,000 for the Statewide Wildlife Habitat Program in Portage County and approve the restrictions on public use of the site. SUMMARY: dnr.wi.gov/about/nrb/2011/december/12-11-2b2.pdfSunday, January 17, 2016 Wisconsin Captive CWD Lotto Pays Out Again indemnity payment of $298,770 for 228 white-tailed deer killed on farm chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2016/01/wisconsin-captive-cwd-lotto-pays-out.html*** We conclude that TSE infectivity is likely to survive burial for long time periods with minimal loss of infectivity and limited movement from the original burial site. However PMCA results have shown that there is the potential for rainwater to elute TSE related material from soil which could lead to the contamination of a wider area. These experiments reinforce the importance of risk assessment when disposing of TSE risk materials. *** The results show that even highly diluted PrPSc can bind efficiently to polypropylene, stainless steel, glass, wood and stone and propagate the conversion of normal prion protein. For in vivo experiments, hamsters were ic injected with implants incubated in 1% 263K-infected brain homogenate. Hamsters, inoculated with 263K-contaminated implants of all groups, developed typical signs of prion disease, whereas control animals inoculated with non-contaminated materials did not. PRION 2014 CONFERENCE chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2014/10/iowa-test-results-from-captive-deer.htmlSubject: Iowa DNR issues statement on Iowa Supreme Court Ruling This is very, very concerning imo. IF this ruling is upheld as such ; ''The Iowa Supreme Court upheld the district court ruling — saying the law gives the DNR only the authority to quarantine the deer — not the land. The ruling says if the Iowa Legislature wants to expand the quarantine powers as suggested by the DNR, then it is free to do so.'' IF a 'precedent' is set as such, by the Legislature not intervening to expand quarantine powers to the DNR for CWD TSE Prion, and the precedent is set as such that the cervid industry and land there from, once contaminated with the CWD TSE Prion, are free to repopulate, sell the land, etc, imo, this will blow the lid off any containment efforts of this damn disease CWD TSE Prion. The Iowa Supreme Court did not just pass the cwd buck down the road, the Supreme Court of Iowa just threw the whole state of Iowa under the bus at 100 MPH. this makes no sense to me, if this is set in stone and the Legislation does not stop it, and stop if fast, any containment of the cwd tse prion will be futile, imo...terry *** 2016 -2017 UPDATED SCIENCE ON CHRONIC WASTING DISEASE CWD TSE PRION *** SATURDAY, JUNE 17, 2017 Iowa DNR issues statement on Iowa Supreme Court Ruling chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2017/06/iowa-dnr-issues-statement-on-iowa.htmlkind regards, terry |
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Post by dgwpa on Jul 27, 2017 17:44:02 GMT -5
What is the AG dept. going to do after the"deer is out of the barn".Are they going to hunt it down and kill it or is it up to the general public ie.hunters to deal with the results.Some of these characters are not going to follow rules they don't agree with.As with the 10pt previously mentioned. You had made a comment that no wildlife should be farmed. I then asked you if your feel the same about other farmed wildlife that are currently farmed? Salmon, oysters, quail, pheasants, turkeys, talapia etc...... Even beef and chicken came from wild stock. There is a clear distinction here - nobody cares that deer are farmed. Farming them simply means raising them, which is something we do with every edible non-pet animal in existence. The difference is what is done AFTER the deer have been farmed. The fact that deer are shipped all over the country, tested or not, then kept in excessively fertile/nutrient rich pens. You are taking a high-risk item (transported deer) and introducing it into a high-impact environment (pens, where the hunters come from all over to kill). Another point of contention which segregates hunting deer from pens is quite simply the way it is done. Every element of fair chase is abandoned. The pen operators have those deer monitored, some are even tagged, every one is named and their location is known. They set feed out. Folks don't just show up and get lucky. Folks show up with intentions on spending a certain amount of dollars for a certain size rack, then the operator sets the hunter in a stand where they know a buck which meets those exact specifications is guaranteed to be because that buck is actually their pet and that is where the food bowl is kept. Sometimes the "sportsmen" are even able to select the buck they wish to kill from a list of photographs prior to a hunt. The only other operation on all of earth which operates the same way is prostitution. On top of everything is the overarching knowledge that this is of zero value to the resident hunter who participates in fair chase hunting, a staple of Pennsylvania culture and tradition. All of the land-management equipment, labor, seed, and fertilizers support the agriculture industry, not the game commission. I'm pretty sure most of the operations do not require a tag for each hunter, but rather a single license for ONE individual to operate an entire farm. Most of the guns and ammo for these hunts are procured out of state or online, excluding them from generating PR dollars for the PGC. The game commission is not making anything off of deer processing services. If there is any sort of poaching or trespass on the game farm properties, it is still the game commission providing WCO support and legal prosecution. All said, it's a net-loss financially on the PGC for these facilities to exist and operate. At the end of the day, the entire concept and operation of most game farms facilitates the spread of CWD and other diseases, undermines the ethics of hunting, and puts miniscule or possibly negative amounts of dollars into the pockets of the PA Game Commission. |
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Post by fleroo on Jul 28, 2017 7:10:29 GMT -5
Huh ? Cows aren't transported ? Chickens aren't transported ? Goats, Pigs, Hogs ? How about Wild Pheasants from South Dakota into PA ? How about sending Turkey back to SD in exchange ?
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Post by 3212 on Jul 28, 2017 8:11:21 GMT -5
The economic losses in PA from CWD will fall disproportionately on those businesses supported by wild deer hunters.
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Post by flounder on Jul 28, 2017 9:45:57 GMT -5
An example of how ridiculous deer farming can become was found in Wisconsin in 2016.The state of Wisconsin paid $298,000 to kill 228 deer held in a 10 acre pen.33 were found to be infected with CWD.12 had escaped in the previous year but were found and killed. yup, and two of those escaped deer had cwd... WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 10, 2016 Wisconsin Two deer that escaped farm had chronic wasting disease CWD chronic-wasting-disease.blogspot.com/2016/02/wisconsin-two-deer-that-escaped-farm.htmlkind regards, terry |
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Post by 3212 on Jul 28, 2017 16:42:29 GMT -5
Huh ? Cows aren't transported ? Chickens aren't transported ? Goats, Pigs, Hogs ? How about Wild Pheasants from South Dakota into PA ? How about sending Turkey back to SD in exchange ? Thus far to my knowledge these animals have not been infected with prions in the U.S.You want to risk that?As CWD approaches the private properties where I hunt the owners have stressed to the 25 on the roster that they want a maximum effort to reduce the herd. |
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Post by fleroo on Jul 31, 2017 7:06:18 GMT -5
Huh ? Cows aren't transported ? Chickens aren't transported ? Goats, Pigs, Hogs ? How about Wild Pheasants from South Dakota into PA ? How about sending Turkey back to SD in exchange ? Thus far to my knowledge these animals have not been infected with prions in the U.S.You want to risk that?As CWD approaches the private properties where I hunt the owners have stressed to the 25 on the roster that they want a maximum effort to reduce the herd. What I was getting at, is that each of those, are transported all the time. All, save for the pheasants, are regulated by the FDA as fur as I can gather. Each can carry, transmit, and perpetuate, deadly diseases in their own right, yet, transported all the time. I wasn't trying to nullify the potential harm CWD can do to a deer herd. |
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Post by dougell on Jul 31, 2017 14:18:41 GMT -5
Horses can get a disease called Coggins.If you travel out of state or go to any state fair,you have to show proof of a vet certificate with a negative coggins.You really don't want to get pulled over out of state with it.Deer farms caused this problem.The more I hear about this case in my own back yard,the more I'm convinced that captive deer with cwd were left go.This is a big disaster for this area.They're gonna pretty much try and wipe the deer out in a very large area that has some of the best hunting available.
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Post by fleroo on Jul 31, 2017 14:28:23 GMT -5
Is CWD the only known transmitted disease, that can be tested for ONLY on a non-living subject ? Are there any domestic animals that carry diseases that cannot be tested while alive ? If not, perhaps that's the biggest difference in transporting ? You probably wouldn't take your horses to a meet, if you had to kill them to test them, eh ?  |
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Post by dougell on Jul 31, 2017 16:35:44 GMT -5
Point well taken.
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Post by 3212 on Jul 31, 2017 17:30:07 GMT -5
What are the penalties for a deer farmer who releases his deer to be rid of the problem?
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