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Post by stroupy on Apr 24, 2024 14:33:32 GMT -5
The right to abortion, he worked to make it hard to exercise the right to vote for some, he did reduce the number of federal employees working in the fields related to labor rights, but he increased the overall number of federal employees by about 100,000, he tried using foreign intel against his opponent, he did not increase taxes but his huge tax cut and increased spending is every bit as bad, He did not get Mexico to pay for a wall as promised but he did ruin any chance that the problem would be fixed because of his personal political wishes. And he did encourage the jan 6th attack on the peoples Capitol and his lies have his lower IQ supporter STILL believing the election was stolen from him. Chalk me up for low iq supporter who knows it was rigged. You guys can ignore the bullsh*t that went on but I won't.
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Post by rusty on Apr 24, 2024 14:54:39 GMT -5
Done.
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Post by stroupy on Apr 25, 2024 6:24:47 GMT -5
Exactly what is the middle when it comes to politics? Is it sometimes where a person is left on a topic, and then is right on another topic? Is it where a person takes a topic and agrees with some of it but not all of it? I don’t know. I agree with stroupy, it’s a load of crap most of the time. Personally I think most people change politically as they grow older, I know I have, though I was never a far left liberal. I did leaned that way a little in my youth. This quote is usually contributed to Winston Churchill, but he wasn’t the first to use it, if he ever used it at all. If you’re not a liberal when you’re 25, you have no heart. If you’re not a conservative by the time you’re 35, you have no brain.’ The middle dwellers think If they take that stance they are right. That's it. Hard to look at someone in the middle as they constantly badger the far right as they call it while using arguments that come from the far left. People in the middle would point out bad things and good things about a person no matter the letter by their name. When it comes to the orange man all it is is constant hate and negativity and never anything positive. That's not the definition of the word middle and why the middle thing is a load of crap.
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 25, 2024 6:34:59 GMT -5
People in the middle would point out bad things and good things about a person no matter the letter by their name. When it comes to the orange man all it is is constant hate and negativity and never anything positive. That's not the definition of the word middle and why the middle thing is a load of crap. I will support Trump if he is the nominee. I believe he is an azz but support many of his policies and positions and have said so here including what I feel is his greatest accomplishment which is the Supreme Court. With that said, people need to hold our elected officials accountable and call them out when they are an azz. You have said I am in the middle and the middle a "load of crap", according to you. Since those in the middle do not say good and bad about people, how do my positions and statements good and bad about people on the left and the right jive with your view of the middle?
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Post by stroupy on Apr 25, 2024 6:39:29 GMT -5
People in the middle would point out bad things and good things about a person no matter the letter by their name. When it comes to the orange man all it is is constant hate and negativity and never anything positive. That's not the definition of the word middle and why the middle thing is a load of crap. I will support Trump if he is the nominee. I believe he is an azz but support many of his policies and positions and have said so here including what I feel is his greatest accomplishment which is the Supreme Court. With that said, people need to hold our elected officials accountable and call them out when they are an azz. You have said I am in the middle and the middle a "load of crap", according to you. Since those in the middle do not say good and bad about people, how do my positions and statements good and bad about people on the left and the right jive with your view of the middle? Lol I'm not the right guy to understand you. Your constant questions directed at me to get me into that corner you seek leaves me with very little knowledge of you. I will say this since covid you have changed your stance. Bias towards the medical field would be my guess as to why.
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 25, 2024 6:43:54 GMT -5
Lol I'm not the right guy to understand you. Your constant questions directed at me to get me into that corner you seek leaves me with very little knowledge of you. I will say this since covid you have changed your stance. Bias towards the medical field would be my guess as to why. I have always said good and bad about people in both parties. With that said, the growing divisiveness and tribalism in politics is something that is going to destroy our country and that is why I have become more opinionated. Those that only see one point of view will be the death of what our country used to be. The hypocrisy on both sides has got to end and we have to get back to governing for the people and for the country and not let extremes drive the narrative.
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Post by stroupy on Apr 25, 2024 6:45:47 GMT -5
Lol I'm not the right guy to understand you. Your constant questions directed at me to get me into that corner you seek leaves me with very little knowledge of you. I will say this since covid you have changed your stance. Bias towards the medical field would be my guess as to why. I have always said good and bad about people in both parties. With that said, the growing divisiveness and tribalism in politics is something that is going to destroy our country and that is why I have become more opinionated. Those that only see one point of view will be the death of what our country used to be. The hypocrisy on both sides has got to end and we have to get back to governing for the people and for the country and not let extremes drive the narrative. Yet you supported one of the most divisive things to ever go on in this country....
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 25, 2024 6:52:04 GMT -5
Yet you supported one of the most divisive things to ever go on in this country.... Covid? Covid is a virus and is not political. But many tried to make it a political thing. I did support a scientific approach to the virus and was critical and supportive of some of the measures that were taken. Politics made Covid a divisive issue. Covid didn't make politics divisive. We were already there.
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Post by stroupy on Apr 25, 2024 7:03:44 GMT -5
Yet you supported one of the most divisive things to ever go on in this country.... Covid? Covid is a virus and is not political. But many tried to make it a political thing. I did support a scientific approach to the virus and was critical and supportive of some of the measures that were taken. Politics made Covid a divisive issue. Covid didn't make politics divisive. We were already there. Oh my apologies my memory must be off (it's not)
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 25, 2024 7:32:58 GMT -5
Oh my apologies my memory must be off (it's not) Yeah. You must have forgotten about me saying Fauci and the CDC became horrible messengers by adding nothing but confusion to the mix as it transpired.
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Post by stroupy on Apr 25, 2024 7:36:32 GMT -5
Oh my apologies my memory must be off (it's not) Yeah. You must have forgotten about me saying Fauci and the CDC became horrible messengers by adding nothing but confusion to the mix as it transpired. Recently you have at the time no. But now we just get to move the goalposts and look back. I remember it well and I bet Doug would confirm it too.
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 25, 2024 8:26:10 GMT -5
Recently you have at the time no. But now we just get to move the goalposts and look back. I remember it well and I bet Doug would confirm it too. Actually, at the time I did say the Fauci and the CDC were botching the messenging as it played out. Be specific if you could what you are referring to rather than just saying I "supported Covid". I did support mitigating measures where hospitals were stressed. I did support masking in indoor areas. I supported the private sector being able to require vaccination but opposed public sector mandates. I supported a scientific approach to Covid. I opposed little businesses being forced to close while bigger business could stay open. I was critical of the CDC mixed messenging. Anything else?
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Post by stroupy on Apr 25, 2024 16:23:44 GMT -5
Recently you have at the time no. But now we just get to move the goalposts and look back. I remember it well and I bet Doug would confirm it too. Actually, at the time I did say the Fauci and the CDC were botching the messenging as it played out. Be specific if you could what you are referring to rather than just saying I "supported Covid". I did support mitigating measures where hospitals were stressed. I did support masking in indoor areas. I supported the private sector being able to require vaccination but opposed public sector mandates. I supported a scientific approach to Covid. I opposed little businesses being forced to close while bigger business could stay open. I was critical of the CDC mixed messenging. Anything else? Boy oh boy that's different then what I remember.
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