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Post by rusty on Jun 13, 2023 7:51:20 GMT -5
If the dems had any sense they would be promoting a younger candidate by now. Harris being VP is more of a reason to want a change than Biden's age. I think trump may again be one of the very few people Biden could beat---again.
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Post by Loggy on Jun 13, 2023 8:19:07 GMT -5
If the dems had any sense they would be promoting a younger candidate by now. Harris being VP is more of a reason to want a change than Biden's age. I think trump may again be one of the very few people Biden could beat---again. Biden once said that if Trump entered the 2024 race that would be his primary incentive to run as he knows it would be an easy win same as in 2020. Sounds like in less than 2 months Trump will also be indicted in GA on RICO charges along with a host of other serious/criminal election interference charges. In addition....Special Counsel Jack Smith is nearing the end of his Jan 6th Insurrection Criminal Investigation which likely will also soon result in additional federal criminal charges. My guess Trump will then immediately drop out(if not even before) which then wouldn't surprise me if Biden would also. There's plenty of electable GOP candidates silently on the sideline which are obviously banking on this. Not sure who would then elevate as the top GOP & Democratic candidate but if all this happens.....the GOP will then have a very good chance of a 2024 win.
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Post by ridgecommander on Jun 13, 2023 9:25:23 GMT -5
They did in 2020 and they chose someone else. Of course some will say that election was rigged so why would the 2024 be any different?
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Post by stroupy on Jun 13, 2023 13:23:48 GMT -5
They did in 2020 and they chose someone else. Of course some will say that election was rigged so why would the 2024 be any different? Lol, they sure act like it. Anyone with half a brain can see its not how you say. If he was no threat he would be left alone. But your logic tells me different. Who would have thought the fix for all our problems is to elect a moderate. How dumb have we all been?
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Post by ridgecommander on Jun 13, 2023 14:33:36 GMT -5
Anyone with half a brain can see its not how you say. So he didn't lose in 2020 and if he loses again in 2024 some won't way it was rigged? And you bring up gray matter...........
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Post by stroupy on Jun 13, 2023 15:21:46 GMT -5
Anyone with half a brain can see its not how you say. So he didn't lose in 2020 and if he loses again in 2024 some won't way it was rigged? And you bring up gray matter........... Well you are in the minority about the election but now that Trump is onto the game will it be okay if he harvests ballots?
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Post by westfieldjoe on Jun 14, 2023 4:51:35 GMT -5
Polling of independents seems to show that the cover provided for the Biden laptop did the most damage to Trump in 2020. Then take into account the FBI involvement surrounding the 1st amendment issues. Trump and his voters got ripped off in those ways. Apparently, a fair number of independents feel they did also.
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Post by stroupy on Jun 14, 2023 5:37:23 GMT -5
Polling of independents seems to show that the cover provided for the Biden laptop did the most damage to Trump in 2020. Then take into account the FBI involvement surrounding the 1st amendment issues. Trump and his voters got ripped off in those ways. Apparently, a fair number of independents feel they did also. Over half of the voters feel something was off with the election. No audit or any checks and balances but because people talked about it that makes up for it apparently. A lot of questions I have no one can answer any of them they just float around the questions all the while telling me how I am wrong and Trump lost. Now they try arresting the guy with over 61% of Republican support. The deep state needs him out of their way. I used to make fun of conspiracy theorists now I am starting to wonder if they were right the whole time.
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Post by ridgecommander on Jun 14, 2023 6:29:40 GMT -5
Well you are in the minority about the election The last numbers I saw was about 40% felt it was stolen. I would be in the 60%, which is not a minority. Any fraud is not okay. It should be stamped out. With that said, Republicans better up their game to get voters to the polls and to get them on board with mail in voting. By the time election day comes, Republicans are already fighting from behind. Now back to my question which I posted after you talked about "half a brain". Here it is again in case you missed it; "So he didn't lose in 2020 and if he loses again in 2024 some won't way it was rigged?
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Post by stroupy on Jun 14, 2023 6:37:23 GMT -5
Well you are in the minority about the election The last numbers I saw was about 40% felt it was stolen. I would be in the 60%, which is not a minority. Any fraud is not okay. It should be stamped out. With that said, Republicans better up their game to get voters to the polls and to get them on board with mail in voting. By the time election day comes, Republicans are already fighting from behind. Now back to my question which I posted after you talked about "half a brain". Here it is again in case you missed it; "So he didn't lose in 2020 and if he loses again in 2024 some won't way it was rigged? Lol, figuring 46% of democrats thought something was off and over 60% of Republicans it was definitely not the minority. I'll answer your questions when you start answering mine. I don't believe he us going to lose. I hope he gets convicted them pardons himself that would really get them stirred up. Then when he wins again they can have more FBI investigations like they have been doing the last 6 years and then the people pointing that out can continue to be called Trump apologists.
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Post by ridgecommander on Jun 14, 2023 7:31:27 GMT -5
]Lol, figuring 46% of democrats thought something was off and over 60% of Republicans it was definitely not the minority. Many people agree that there were inconstancies, including myself. Probably a majority. My comment was about the election being "rigged" which means that the outcomes was pre-determined. I know it is hard for you to stay on topic. Less than 50% of voters feel it was pre-determined. I believe I did. Ask again if you didn't like my answers. Use some question marks after them as well. How can he win if the election is rigged?
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Post by rusty on Jun 14, 2023 7:34:43 GMT -5
Sounds like you think the chaos trump instigates is a good thing, Stroup.
Trump has not denied taking all the documents, which is against the law. Do you believe he should suffer no consequences for being so reckless with some of this country's, and many of our allies', most critical secrets? How do you feel about his call to "terminate" parts of the constitution for his benefit? Do you feel he is the best the republican party has to offer the voter?
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Post by ridgecommander on Jun 14, 2023 7:37:55 GMT -5
Stroupy. I went back and looked through the last two paages. I did miss this one; "Wonder if Garland is still sour he was never put on Scotus?
My answer is possibly. Only he can answer that though.
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Post by stroupy on Jun 14, 2023 7:39:06 GMT -5
]Lol, figuring 46% of democrats thought something was off and over 60% of Republicans it was definitely not the minority. Many people agree that there were inconstancies, including myself. Probably a majority. My comment was about the election being "rigged" which means that the outcomes was pre-determined. I know it is hard for you to stay on topic. Less than 50% of voters feel it was pre-determined. I believe I did. Ask again if you didn't like my answers. Use some question marks after them as well. How can he win if the election is rigged? I was accused of not using question marks before and pointed out to you that I do and then you floated around that too. :)As for it being predetermined they even wrote an article about it and how they schemed it up but that article I posted before and it again got floated around. Zuckerbucks, the laptop being dismissed as Russian misinformation, and the list goes on, and you guys will continue to float around that stuff. 😀
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Post by stroupy on Jun 14, 2023 7:42:00 GMT -5
Sounds like you think the chaos trump instigates is a good thing, Stroup. Trump has not denied taking all the documents, which is against the law. Do you believe he should suffer no consequences for being so reckless with some of this country's, and many of our allies', most critical secrets? How do you feel about his call to "terminate" parts of the constitution for his benefit? Do you feel he is the best the republican party has to offer the voter? I feel your assertion of elect a moderate is just plain naive. Do they really care if they fix your issues? They don't the sooner you people wake up a d realize Trump isn't the bad guy the better but you won't. As for the litigation there is a reason they are pushing this on Espionage, they opened up the book to find something to charge him with its targeting plain and simple and I hope you never suffer the same treatment.
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Post by rusty on Jun 14, 2023 7:46:35 GMT -5
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Post by stroupy on Jun 14, 2023 7:56:27 GMT -5
Again Trump is a speak his mind type of person I don't know if I ever heard of one of those people being labeled a liar. But the logic here is different somehow. The people constantly taking his words out of context now they are the true liars.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2023 7:58:28 GMT -5
Trump really is the bad guy. He really is.
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Post by ridgecommander on Jun 14, 2023 7:58:37 GMT -5
As for it being predetermined they even wrote an article about it and how they schemed it up but that article I posted before and it again got floated around. Who is they? If you read an "article", do you consider it to be the gospel?
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Post by stroupy on Jun 14, 2023 8:01:35 GMT -5
As for it being predetermined they even wrote an article about it and how they schemed it up but that article I posted before and it again got floated around. Who is they? If you read an "article", do you consider it to be the gospel? Lol when they openly brag about it. I guess If you can't believe that what can you believe?
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Post by stroupy on Jun 14, 2023 8:04:31 GMT -5
Trump really is the bad guy. He really is. Why because the career long politicians and media told you he is? I have dealt with this nonsense before especially in .y own gun club. The guilty ones are the ones aways pointing the finger at everyone else. They say it's Trump and bash the voter Trump says it's the swamp, and bashes them but somehow he's the bad guy? I just can't wrap myself around some of your guys opinions on this. Then everyone says they don't like the politicians. Which one is you can't play both sides. Lol
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Post by ridgecommander on Jun 14, 2023 8:06:12 GMT -5
Lol when they openly brag about it. I guess If you can't believe that what can you believe? Who is they? If you read an "article", do you consider it to be the gospel? I can't answer your question about believing it unless I know who and what you are referring to.
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Post by stroupy on Jun 14, 2023 8:09:57 GMT -5
Lol when they openly brag about it. I guess If you can't believe that what can you believe? Who is they? If you read an "article", do you consider it to be the gospel? I can't answer your question about believing it unless I know who and what you are referring to. It was in Time magazine, when they openly brag about it I guess if you can't believe that what can you believe? Lol
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Post by ridgecommander on Jun 14, 2023 8:10:33 GMT -5
It was in Time magazine, when they openly brag about it I guess if you can't believe that what can you believe? Lol Who is they? Do you consider Time Magazine as a unbiased news source?
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Post by ridgecommander on Jun 14, 2023 8:11:52 GMT -5
The guilty ones are the ones aways pointing the finger at everyone else. Does Trump do that at all?
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