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Post by ridgecommander on Jun 10, 2023 13:36:14 GMT -5
Yeah I guess we forgot about the Facebook fact checkers, Twitter accounts being banned hell they even killed Parler. I didn't forget about the above. Even with the above, we were all flooded with information about the "rigged" and "stolen" election along with the "fraudulent mail in voting". An objective person wouldn't say that the people of this country didn't receive plenty of the information you claim was squashed. That information was everywhere. I won't because I am objective. Info wars were and are still be waged on both sides. Yes, some worked hard to make some info go away. Plenty was left for everybody to digest if they wished to. |
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Post by stroupy on Jun 10, 2023 16:58:15 GMT -5
Yeah I guess we forgot about the Facebook fact checkers, Twitter accounts being banned hell they even killed Parler. I didn't forget about the above. Even with the above, we were all flooded with information about the "rigged" and "stolen" election along with the "fraudulent mail in voting". An objective person wouldn't say that the people of this country didn't receive plenty of the information you claim was squashed. That information was everywhere. I won't because I am objective. Info wars were and are still be waged on both sides. Yes, some worked hard to make some info go away. Plenty was left for everybody to digest if they wished to. The majority of voters including almost 50% of democrats said something was off. No audit no investigation. 2016 the minority thought Russia influenced the election we got a 2 year bs investigation. Anyone claiming to be in the middle or objective would point that out. Truth is most are not in the middle the way they claim. The double standard in this country is bs. If it was straight down the line no one could bitch. |
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Post by Loggy on Jun 10, 2023 17:50:58 GMT -5
I didn't forget about the above. Even with the above, we were all flooded with information about the "rigged" and "stolen" election along with the "fraudulent mail in voting". An objective person wouldn't say that the people of this country didn't receive plenty of the information you claim was squashed. That information was everywhere. I won't because I am objective. Info wars were and are still be waged on both sides. Yes, some worked hard to make some info go away. Plenty was left for everybody to digest if they wished to. The majority of voters including almost 50% of democrats said something was off. No audit no investigation. 2016 the minority thought Russia influenced the election we got a 2 year bs investigation. Anyone claiming to be in the middle or objective would point that out. Truth is most are not in the middle the way they claim. The double standard in this country is bs. If it was straight down the line no one could bitch. The 2 year Russia investigation was far from "bs". Mueller clearly documented 10 Criminal Obstruction violations in Vol II of his Report(take time & read it!) commited by Trump which essentially delayed/derailed the Russian investigation which AG Barr fell for. If Special Counsel Jack Smith would of been the Russian Investigation prosecutor Trump would of obviously been criminally indicted just as he was criminally indicted by Prosecutor Jack Smith on Thursday on 37 Criminal Felony charges, including 31 counts of violations of the Espionage Act plus Obstruction of Justice. Special Prosecuter Jack Smith has ZERO tolerance for Trump's childish bs threats & delay tactics. Jack will soon write Trumps final chapter when he concludes the January 6th Insurrection part of his investigation. |
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Post by stroupy on Jun 10, 2023 17:57:27 GMT -5
The majority of voters including almost 50% of democrats said something was off. No audit no investigation. 2016 the minority thought Russia influenced the election we got a 2 year bs investigation. Anyone claiming to be in the middle or objective would point that out. Truth is most are not in the middle the way they claim. The double standard in this country is bs. If it was straight down the line no one could bitch. The 2 year Russia investigation was far from "bs". Mueller clearly documented 10 Criminal Obstruction violations in Vol II of his Report(take time & read it!) commited by Trump which essentially delayed/derailed the Russian investigation which AG Barr fell for. If Special Counsel Jack Smith would of been the Russian Investigation prosecutor Trump would of obviously been criminally indicted just as he was criminally indicted by Prosecutor Jack Smith on Thursday on 37 Criminal Felony charges, including 31 counts of violations of the Espionage Act plus Obstruction of Justice. Special Prosecuter Jack Smith has ZERO tolerance for Trump's childish bs threats & delay tactics. Jack will soon write Trumps final chapter when he concludes the January 6th Insurrection part of his investigation. I can't take anything you say seriously. You get bent out of shape over Trump and the judge comment then conviently ignore Bidens racist remarks his wife's taco comments. Sorry hypocrisy doesn't fly with me and we have a whole bunch in this country right now. Look up the Durham report. That says different. |
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Post by stroupy on Jun 10, 2023 18:01:21 GMT -5
For the record I could care less about Bidens racist remarks,it's the double standards in this country where his get ignored and the orange man gets his elevated. There lies the problem. Anyone claiming to be in "the middle" would point that out. If you don't maybe you are not so in "the middle"
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Post by Loggy on Jun 10, 2023 18:23:59 GMT -5
Special Prosector Jack Smith invites you to read his indictment. I suggest you do vs continually spewing factless/uncorroborated garbage.
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Post by stroupy on Jun 10, 2023 19:26:38 GMT -5
Special Prosector Jack Smith invites you to read his indictment. I suggest you do vs continually spewing factless/uncorroborated garbage. Well if you agree with such nonsense I hope you or a loved one receives the same treatment. Live by the sword die by it. I bet a lot of money you would be singing a different tune. |
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Post by ridgecommander on Jun 11, 2023 6:06:17 GMT -5
Anyone claiming to be in the middle or objective would point that out. I and many others acknowledged then and would acknowledge today that there was and will always be inconsistencies in elections. Any time people are involved, it happens. An objective person realizes that. The question is do those levels rise to the point that affected the outcome of the Presidential election. All objective evidence, audits, challenges, etc. that have been made to the election show that is didn't. |
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Post by ridgecommander on Jun 11, 2023 6:24:49 GMT -5
The indictment is pretty damning. It is interested watching the loyalists still trying to equate Biden and Pence's handling of documents to Trumps. |
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Post by stroupy on Jun 11, 2023 6:30:27 GMT -5
Anyone claiming to be in the middle or objective would point that out. I and many others acknowledged then and would acknowledge today that there was and will always be inconsistencies in elections. Any time people are involved, it happens. An objective person realizes that. The question is do those levels rise to the point that affected the outcome of the Presidential election. All objective evidence, audits, challenges, etc. that have been made to the election show that is didn't. What little it was looked into no one can say that. One gets 2 years and the other gets a "take our word for it" lol fair shake if you ask me. They are already screwing with the next election. There is no damming evidence. The liberal media says there is but 2 and a half minutes from the dweeb shows you there is nothing there. An objective person would want the Clinton's arrested and Biden as they all did the same. They just get ignored. |
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Post by ridgecommander on Jun 11, 2023 6:34:50 GMT -5
An objective person would want the Clinton's arrested and Biden as they all did the same. They just get ignored. What did Biden do as far as election fraud, since that is what we were discussing, that he should get arrested? If you pivoted to the documents case, what Biden and Trump did seems to be vastly different but it will play out in court for all to see the facts of the case. Remember the special prosecutor was a Trump appointee. |
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Post by stroupy on Jun 11, 2023 6:43:52 GMT -5
An objective person would want the Clinton's arrested and Biden as they all did the same. They just get ignored. What did Biden do as far as election fraud, since that is what we were discussing, that he should get arrested? Biden doesn’t know what day it is its his handlers. Lol, I'm at the point where I watch the guy who said America 1st get treated like sh*t like he's the issue and watch the slimy politicians get away with all their nonsense. So I'm at this point let the country be ran by the left, anyone pointing the finger at Trump should receive the same legal treatments as they are sticking up for. Let one of these weirdos go in the same changing room as one of your daughters or granddaughters. Imo you deserve it but what do I know I am just a right wing extremist? Lol |
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Post by ridgecommander on Jun 11, 2023 7:43:55 GMT -5
Let one of these weirdos go in the same changing room as one of your daughters or granddaughters. Imo you deserve it but what do I know I am just a right wing extremist? Lol Did you pivot again to another topic? You start debating election fraud and now are onto transgender issues.......... Whats next before I respond to the above that way I can cover all of your tangents in one post? |
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Post by stroupy on Jun 11, 2023 7:55:48 GMT -5
Let one of these weirdos go in the same changing room as one of your daughters or granddaughters. Imo you deserve it but what do I know I am just a right wing extremist? Lol Did you pivot again to another topic? You start debating election fraud and now are onto transgender issues.......... Whats next before I respond to the above that way I can cover all of your tangents in one post? It was my way of not letting you twist things and giving up. You avoid a lot yourself. So have your leftist rule. Just be welcoming to it when you or someone close to you is on the wrong end of it. The 2020 election was not looked into no matter how much you claim it was. It was take our word for it, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain event. I remember it well. |
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Post by westfieldjoe on Jun 11, 2023 8:12:08 GMT -5
We have arrived to the point, where if you work for a government agency, and you place your integrity first, you become an enemy to that agency.
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Post by ridgecommander on Jun 11, 2023 8:34:01 GMT -5
It was my way of not letting you twist things and giving up. You avoid a lot yourself. LOL. If I wanted to avoid stuff, I would not want to actually stick to a topic and discuss it. Typically, when someone cannot stick to a topic, they realize they can't hang so they bug out before getting all bound up on their own words. Okay. That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. Many of the republican election officials that actually did dig into the election disagree with you. |
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Post by stroupy on Jun 11, 2023 8:57:19 GMT -5
It was my way of not letting you twist things and giving up. You avoid a lot yourself. LOL. If I wanted to avoid stuff, I would not want to actually stick to a topic and discuss it. Typically, when someone cannot stick to a topic, they realize they can't hang so they bug out before getting all bound up on their own words. Okay. That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. Many of the republican election officials that actually did dig into the election disagree with you. No I just am smart enough to not want to go around and around in a circle with you over this. So have your bigger government that you now stick up for. They took away our right of worship, our kids right for an education, and our right to work not that long ago in which you were in favor of. As for people looking into it no they didn't. Everyone was afraid to get their hands dirty it was proclaimed it was free and fair and there was a lot if grey areas. But keep holding onto that the election was fair. It's a screwed up country when we would rather give billions to the corrupt cou try if Ukraine then turn on a guy who says we should take care of ourselves first. Yeah really screwed up. I hope you or your loved ones never get the political prosecution that you seem to be in favor of. |
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Post by ridgecommander on Jun 11, 2023 9:24:24 GMT -5
So have your bigger government that you now stick up for. Nope. As a conservative I want our federal govt's size and responsibilities reduced. Much of the power to govern the people should be at the state level. Not in favor of that either. You are wrong again. Imagine that. Unlike the Russian collusion investigation, there seems to be a lot of there, there in this recent indictment if what is in there is close to the truth. Even former Attorney General Barr, which conservatives loved, said that if half of it is true, Trump is in trouble. Time will tell. |
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Post by stroupy on Jun 11, 2023 9:29:47 GMT -5
And an objective person would say innocent until proven guilty all the while pointing out things like using hearsay evidence, and screaming impeachment before a guy is in office. That's being in the middle and objective. Unless the definition changed which would no longer shock me. The Durham report said different funny how its not mentioned.
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Post by ridgecommander on Jun 11, 2023 11:45:18 GMT -5
And an objective person would say innocent until proven guilty I did, lol............... Here is what I said again. "There seems to be a lot of there, there in this recent indictment if what is in there is close to the truth." Let it play out in court then we can circle back to it. With that said, the indictment is pretty damning including the quotes from Trump himself about the documents. The indictment is just one side. Lets hear the other side and see where it goes. That is how the system works. |
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Post by stroupy on Jun 11, 2023 12:12:41 GMT -5
Lol let me guess the video of Trump saying something without the video producing it? Just paper rattling. The objective person would not claim someone is in trouble they would say they were innocent until proven otherwise. Hillary smashed blackberries with hammers the objective person would say if you do it to one you must do it to the other. Spin it how you like.
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Post by ridgecommander on Jun 11, 2023 15:33:34 GMT -5
Lol let me guess the video of Trump saying something without the video producing it? Just paper rattling. The objective person would not claim someone is in trouble they would say they were innocent until proven otherwise. Hillary smashed blackberries with hammers the objective person would say if you do it to one you must do it to the other. Spin it how you like. Let me repeat again what I said. "There seems to be a lot of there, there in this recent indictment if what is in there is close to the truth." I even bolded the important words twice now................ You seemed to have pivoted again to Hillary now. Did she face an indictment over "smashed blackberries", what was the outcome of that trial and is she also innocent until proven guilty? |
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Post by stroupy on Jun 11, 2023 15:55:42 GMT -5
Lol let me guess the video of Trump saying something without the video producing it? Just paper rattling. The objective person would not claim someone is in trouble they would say they were innocent until proven otherwise. Hillary smashed blackberries with hammers the objective person would say if you do it to one you must do it to the other. Spin it how you like. Let me repeat again what I said. "There seems to be a lot of there, there in this recent indictment if what is in there is close to the truth." I even bolded the important words twice now................ You seemed to have pivoted again to Hillary now. Did she face an indictment over "smashed blackberries", what was the outcome of that trial and is she also innocent until proven guilty? Your words were he appears to be in trouble. That's not acting like he's innocent until he's not. They have tried for 7 years to get him on for something a lot of Ludacris stuff but now he's running for reelection and now the Indictments start? Sounds like strategy instead of by the book. I used Hillary as an example she was reported to have smashed blackberries in the report and never underwent trial for it because of Obamas DOJ said Don't push it. Bill Clinton had videos, Biden had records by his corvette. So if you do it to one you do it to all. That's being objective. Saying Trumps isn't compatible to the others definitely isn't being objective because there is no other trial to compare it too. So I'd like to know how taking Trump out of the presidential mix and not letting the people decide on who to pick is being "objective" First they weaponize covid to get him out, now they weaponize the Federal government to keep him from running yet I and others should think everything is fair? Yeah not in a million years. |
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Post by ridgecommander on Jun 11, 2023 16:43:07 GMT -5
Your words were he appears to be in trouble. That's not acting like he's innocent until he's not. Maybe you don't know the difference between appears and is? Again, these were my words. "There seems to be a lot of there, there in this recent indictment if what is in there is close to the truth." I even bolded another important word in there for you............. Yep. You used her as an example of contradicting yourself. You do know that Biden is still under investigation for that don't you? All were investigated and some still are. Objectively speaking, or course. Have you ever noticed why the symbol for justice is blindfolded on a scale? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2023 17:46:15 GMT -5
Trump is a petulant child. There are plenty of adults running for the Republican nomination. Pick one
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