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Post by pfsc on Apr 29, 2015 9:28:19 GMT -5
HB 1374 By Farina. Amends Title 34 (Game), in hunting and fur taking further providing for prohibition on Sunday hunting & providing for regulation of Sunday hunting by the Pennsylvania Game Commission.
HCO1821 By Farina. Authorizes the Pennsylvania Game Commission (PGC) to provide for Sunday hunting.
* April 28, 2015 02:58 PM * Rep. Frank Farina * Sunday Hunting Legislation - Revised * In the near future, we will be introducing legislation that would amend * Title 34 (Game) of the Pennsylvania Consolidated Statues to authorize * the Pennsylvania Game Commission (PGC) to provide for Sunday hunting. * * * * Specifically, this legislation would amend Section 2303 of Title 34 by * adding a subsection that reads: * * * * (d) Expiration.-This section shall expire upon the publication * of the regulation under section 2303.1 (b) (relating to hunting on * Sunday). * * * * sect. 2303.1. Hunting on Sunday. * * (a) General rule.-The commission may institute Sunday hunting by * regulation promulgated in accordance with section 2102 (relating to * regulations). * * (b) Applicability.-It shall be lawful for any person to hunt for any * furbearer or game on Sunday on and after the publication of the final * regulation under subsection (a). * * * * Providing an additional day for hunting would provide a means to * recruit new hunters, and most importantly today's youths, while * retaining existing hunters who are unable to hunt during current game * seasons due to a lack of time. In addition, it is believed that the * expansion of Sunday hunting would provide a boost to economies at both * the state and local levels. * * * * The prohibition on Sunday hunting is the only game management decision * given to the General Assembly. Under this legislation, the promulgation * of regulations governing Sunday hunting would fall under the * jurisdiction of the PGC.
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Post by Dutch on Apr 29, 2015 16:32:47 GMT -5
And with the support of the PFSC and USP, this should sail thru, right?
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Post by galthatfishes on Apr 29, 2015 16:34:55 GMT -5
Godshall is in support. You tell me.
Pennsylvania: Sunday Hunting Legislation Open to Cosponsorship Please contact your state Representative and urge him or her to cosponsor Representative Farina’s and Representative Godshall’s Sunday hunting bill today. This week, Representative Frank Farina (D-112) and Representative Robert Godshall (R-53) will be circulating a memo for cosponsorship of an NRA-backed Sunday hunting bill. This legislation, yet to be assigned a number, would permit hunting on Sundays in the Keystone State. The prohibition on Sunday hunting is an old blue law left on the books in just a handful of states. This prohibition denies hunters access one day per week despite the fact that each year hunters pump millions of dollars into habitat restoration and conservation through Pittman-Robertson funds and are primarily responsible for healthy ecosystems throughout Pennsylvania. Many hunters are prohibited from introducing their children or friends to hunting because Saturday is their only opportunity, and they are competing with numerous organized sports and other activities. Countless hunters stop hunting because of the lack of opportunity, both in time and accessible land. The addition of an extra day in the field, especially on the weekend, increases the opportunity to enjoy our hunting heritage. Allowing hunting on Sundays would invigorate essential hunter recruitment and retention efforts. Sunday hunting would also bring a much-needed economic boost to rural areas. Every day that hunters are in the field, they spend money on gasoline, food, lodging and the dozens of other incidentals that go along with a day's hunt. The ripple effect of this spending can have a major impact on a rural town or county. Comprehensive research from the National Shooting Sports Foundation shows that allowing hunting on Sundays in Pennsylvania would generate a total annual economic impact estimated at $764 million and create more than 8,000 jobs. In addition to this much needed economic spark, this legislation would clearly help advance and preserve the Keystone State's rich hunting traditions, while enhancing biodiversity and wildlife populations. Within recent years, the Pennsylvania Board of Game Commissioners adopted a resolution supporting the repeal of the statutory prohibition on Sunday hunting. The Board formally recognized many of the negative impacts that the Sunday hunting ban has on Pennsylvania and gave their approval to abolish this outdated blue law. Please contact your state Representative TODAY and urge him or her to become a cosponsor of the Farina/Godshall Sunday hunting bill. If you are unsure of who represents you, click here. Your NRA-ILA will continue to update you on this legislation as it moves through the Pennsylvania Legislature.
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 29, 2015 17:13:03 GMT -5
How long till the PFB begins their war on hunters again?
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Post by galthatfishes on Apr 29, 2015 17:21:10 GMT -5
Lets hope that doesn't happen Ridge
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 29, 2015 17:56:18 GMT -5
Lets hope that doesn't happen Ridge One can always hope but I am pretty confident that the towhee will sing the same cher wink song that it is famous for.
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Post by Dutch on Apr 29, 2015 19:28:58 GMT -5
PFB testified before the PGC about the problems farmers are having with to many bears, but also pointed out that they didn't want SH to "fix" the situation.
170,000 bear hunters, one day per year.....in November when no one is really in the woods. Big deal.
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Post by Dutch on Apr 29, 2015 19:30:11 GMT -5
Also, how many youth spring turkey hunters do we have? 25,000? Maybe?
Yeah, give them a Sunday.
That would be just WAY to many guns going off.... LMBO.
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Post by bawanajim on Apr 29, 2015 20:02:42 GMT -5
As You laugh your azzz off, my property tax bill came yesterday, you know the one that was going to be lessened by all of the income from PA gambling. Of course trespassing will be addressed also . You will never get it that its not all your land!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 20:22:06 GMT -5
Farina is a rep in my area. Not my rep, but I'm going to reach out to him. He's under the gun for supporting a new proposed Nat Gas power plant near me (Jessup, PA). He's not too popular, for better or worse. He has come off as arrogant... not to me, but the people he reps. C'est la vie.
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Post by bawanajim on Apr 29, 2015 20:28:11 GMT -5
The laughing at or shaming of people that make thier living from the land will not now, nor will it ever promote your goal, I know it's a feel good to all of you city folks, but we don't miss you as much as you think.
Go watch a movie and leave us all alone, we won't miss you at all.
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Post by Dutch on Apr 30, 2015 4:51:23 GMT -5
As You laugh your azzz off, my property tax bill came yesterday, you know the one that was going to be lessened by all of the income from PA gambling. Of course trespassing will be addressed also . You will never get it that its not all your land! I would like to see trespass penalties increased. The Farm Bureau, has done nothing on that one, even tho they complain about it. No one said its my land, but why can't hunters that do have permission to hunt on a Sunday or own their own land not have that option? Why shouldn't public lands, that are under used that time of year NOT be open to SH? Why should a few folks keep others from enjoying a family enriching activity, on a Sunday?
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Post by Dutch on Apr 30, 2015 4:52:28 GMT -5
The laughing at or shaming of people that make thier living from the land will not now, nor will it ever promote your goal, I know it's a feel good to all of you city folks, but we don't miss you as much as you think. Go watch a movie and leave us all alone, we won't miss you at all. But you go to New York to hunt your land there, on a Sunday...... isn't that hypocritical of you?
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 30, 2015 6:48:29 GMT -5
You will never get it that its not all your land! And you will never get it that all land in this state is subject to trespass from fisherman, hikers, atv riders, hikers, partiers, bicyclers, birdwatchers, every day of the dam week. Including Sundays. Hunting is the only outdoor activity that is illegal by law on a Sunday and it is responsible for a fraction of the total trespass that occurs in this state. I own land to. People trespass on my land. That comes with owning land. If you don't want the stink, don't own a dairy farm. There are plenty of lands that where hunters would be welcomed to hunt on Sundays. If your land or any other would not be open, that is your and their right to not allow it.
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 30, 2015 6:57:04 GMT -5
The laughing at or shaming of people that make thier living from the land will not now, nor will it ever promote your goal, In my case the only landowners and/or orgs that I have issues with are those that throw hunters under the bus with mistruths and inflammatory ignorant comments meant to inflame the non hunting public to gain an advantage in the debate. My issue is with the leadership and spokespeople of the PFB, not members or individual farmers unless they also use the same shameful langauge when discussing the topic. Farmers have my respect until they lose it. Some have lost it. Most have not.
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Post by bawanajim on Apr 30, 2015 7:15:58 GMT -5
The laughing at or shaming of people that make thier living from the land will not now, nor will it ever promote your goal, I know it's a feel good to all of you city folks, but we don't miss you as much as you think. Go watch a movie and leave us all alone, we won't miss you at all. But you go to New York to hunt your land there, on a Sunday...... isn't that hypocritical of you? In NY trespassing is a crime and they put you in jail, the funny thing about that is trespassing doesn't happen. And once again it is our land, and as tax payers we are protected from hunters trespassing by the very people that licence the hunters, very much unlike PA, It seems like such a silly concept yet it works simply well, very much unlike PA where trespassing is a way of life for far to many, and excused by the very folks who cause it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2015 7:48:51 GMT -5
It is the same in Ohio. If you are hunting on a tract of private land, written permission is required. I actually had mine checked by a game warden while hunting in Ohio. I agree with you that trespassing is not taken seriously in Pennsylvania. That is the problem, not hunting on Sunday, or any other day for that matter. We should all be working to get the law changed so that trespassing is a crime with real punishment, and a crime that gets the attention of law enforcement officers and gets trespassers thrown in jail or assessed a significant fine. For some strange reason, even our police do not want to enforce trespass laws, let alone the officers of the game commission. They do not see it as a serious crime, but then, they probably do not have a personal problem with people trespassing on land they own. Try this. Call your legiscritter and demand that he sponsor a bill to make trespassing a crime punishable by fines of at least $500 with jail time for the second offense, and let me know how it goes for you. I have done so, and my legiscritter did not even bother to respond to a letter on the subject. I suspect that it is because those who own land in hunting areas are a very small minority and he does not see any threat to his career if he isn't concerned about it.
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 30, 2015 7:49:27 GMT -5
And once again it is our land, and as tax payers we are protected from hunters trespassing by the very people that licence the hunters, very much unlike PA, . Trespassing is also illegal in Pa.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2015 7:51:01 GMT -5
And once again it is our land, and as tax payers we are protected from hunters trespassing by the very people that licence the hunters, very much unlike PA, . Trespassing is also illegal in Pa. But, as I said in my post above, Gene, not taken seriously by law enforcement. The penalties are also a joke.
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 30, 2015 8:16:42 GMT -5
But, as I said in my post above, Gene, not taken seriously by law enforcement. The penalties are also a joke. Certainly could be enforced better and stiffer penalties. Still illegal though. Yet, fishing, biking, hroseback riding, mushroom collecting, birdwatching, atv riding etc... are all legal every day of the week and are responsible for more trespass than hunting.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2015 8:30:06 GMT -5
As you well know, Gene, I agree with you that it is ridiculous that hunting alone is considered so immoral that it should be illegal to do on any day of the week, Sunday included. The issue of trespassing is a serious one, and one with which I personally have to deal on occasion. I do wish our legislature and our law enforcement agencies took it as a serious crime, but they do not.
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Post by bake545 on Apr 30, 2015 8:49:44 GMT -5
I think the reason most cops, especially state cops, don't take tresspassing seriously is because compared to what they are normally dealing with it isn't. They are stretched thin in many areas and have to prioritze their calls and tresspassing is far down the list compared to drug issues, DUI's, etc. I can't really blame them either.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2015 8:53:05 GMT -5
Tell me then why New York and Ohio do seem to have the time to take it seriously.
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Post by bawanajim on Apr 30, 2015 9:22:16 GMT -5
But, as I said in my post above, Gene, not taken seriously by law enforcement. The penalties are also a joke. Certainly could be enforced better and stiffer penalties. Still illegal though. Yet, fishing, biking, hroseback riding, mushroom collecting, birdwatching, atv riding etc... are all legal every day of the week and are responsible for more trespass than hunting. This is simply wrong, I have never seen a bird watcher trespass or a biker, we have horse back riders and cross country skiers, and they always ask permission, as for ATV riders, well theres a special place in hell reserved for them that I don't catch, the rest pay dearly for the damage they do. and the police gladly help. As for hunters they simply get a free pass from every one, and they are the problem.
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 30, 2015 10:21:58 GMT -5
Certainly could be enforced better and stiffer penalties. Still illegal though. Yet, fishing, biking, hroseback riding, mushroom collecting, birdwatching, atv riding etc... are all legal every day of the week and are responsible for more trespass than hunting. This is simply wrong, Nope. It is absolutely correct on a statewide level. Every one of the above activities is legal every day of the week all year long. Hunting is condensed into 6 days over only a few months were particpation amounts to anything. In my little corner of the world, I witness trespassing almost every day. None of it from hunters.
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