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Post by Dutch on Apr 21, 2024 19:52:47 GMT -5
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Post by stroupy on Apr 21, 2024 20:16:13 GMT -5
Guys a hero for spending more money?
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Post by moosemike on Apr 22, 2024 5:51:31 GMT -5
Guys a hero for spending more money? You think we're hurting financially now. Just pull the US out of its status as leader of the free World once. The World will begin to dump the dollar as the World Reserve Currency, our debts will be called, and we will spiral into a great depression |
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Post by stroupy on Apr 22, 2024 6:08:16 GMT -5
Guys a hero for spending more money? You think we're hurting financially now. Just pull the US out of its status as leader of the free World once. The World will begin to dump the dollar as the World Reserve Currency, our debts will be called, and we will spiral into a great depression So we keep spending billions on other countries to keep us from going into an economic disaster? |
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 22, 2024 6:36:57 GMT -5
As much as a I hate to say it, giving more money to Ukraine is a lost cause unless the US and NATO go in and drive Russia out. This is wasted US tax dollars.
As far as Johnson goes, he became a loser when he caved to Trump and sank the other aid deal which included massive border investment and reform. THat money would have actually accomplished something. In the end, funds were approved to foreign govts anyway and nothing for our own border.
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Post by moosemike on Apr 22, 2024 7:19:02 GMT -5
You think we're hurting financially now. Just pull the US out of its status as leader of the free World once. The World will begin to dump the dollar as the World Reserve Currency, our debts will be called, and we will spiral into a great depression So we keep spending billions on other countries to keep us from going into an economic disaster? Yes. That's the only way to keep our economy above water. We pull out of the World, they pull out of the Dollar. We go into instant collapse. That's why every administration sends billions upon billions overseas |
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Post by moosemike on Apr 22, 2024 7:20:26 GMT -5
As much as a I hate to say it, giving more money to Ukraine is a lost cause unless the US and NATO go in and drive Russia out. This is wasted US tax dollars. As far as Johnson goes, he became a loser when he caved to Trump and sank the other aid deal which included massive border investment and reform. THat money would have actually accomplished something. In the end, funds were approved to foreign govts anyway and nothing for our own border. No it's not. We propped Afghanistan up and kept the Soviet Union in a 10 year war there that led to the collapse of the USSR. We're doing it again |
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 22, 2024 7:34:52 GMT -5
No it's not. We propped Afghanistan up and kept the Soviet Union in a 10 year war there that led to the collapse of the USSR. We're doing it again In my mind, the return on investment just isn't there. Putin will be gone eventually and the people truly want better. Its a waste of tax dollars at this point by just feeding in billions every 6 months. |
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Post by moosemike on Apr 22, 2024 7:39:29 GMT -5
No it's not. We propped Afghanistan up and kept the Soviet Union in a 10 year war there that led to the collapse of the USSR. We're doing it again In my mind, the return on investment just isn't there. Putin will be gone eventually and the people truly want better. Its a waste of tax dollars at this point. You may be right. But if Medvedev succeeds Putin, and that is apparently the plan, it will remain business as usual over there |
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Post by Loggy on Apr 22, 2024 8:59:09 GMT -5
The fact that MTG is all pissed off at Mike Johnson tells me he did the best thing for our Country! You won't find a better litmus test than that!!  |
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Post by rusty on Apr 22, 2024 13:09:21 GMT -5
As far as Johnson goes, he became a loser when he caved to Trump and sank the other aid deal which included massive border investment and reform. THat money would have actually accomplished something. In the end, funds were approved to foreign govts anyway and nothing for our own border. 100% Johnson and the others that still run to, and cower to, trump are the worst of the clowns in Washington. |
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Post by stroupy on Apr 22, 2024 16:17:10 GMT -5
We can send over billions s but couldn't get a few billion for a border wall, because it was a waste of money. I could care two sh*ts about Ukraine.
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Post by davet on Apr 22, 2024 16:46:19 GMT -5
We can send over billions s but couldn't get a few billion for a border wall, because it was a waste of money. I could care two sh*ts about Ukraine. And that's one man's opinion. |
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Post by moosemike on Apr 22, 2024 16:52:16 GMT -5
We can send over billions s but couldn't get a few billion for a border wall, because it was a waste of money. I could care two sh*ts about Ukraine. Nobody that makes decisions about such things is going to consult you or me |
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Post by stroupy on Apr 22, 2024 16:56:12 GMT -5
We can send over billions s but couldn't get a few billion for a border wall, because it was a waste of money. I could care two sh*ts about Ukraine. And that's one man's opinion. But they take my taxes to waste. |
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Post by stroupy on Apr 22, 2024 16:56:40 GMT -5
We can send over billions s but couldn't get a few billion for a border wall, because it was a waste of money. I could care two sh*ts about Ukraine. Nobody that makes decisions about such things is going to consult you or me I know they don't but they use my money to mismanage. |
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Post by Dutch on Apr 22, 2024 17:00:32 GMT -5
The biggest mistake we made with Ukraine was NOT getting involved in Ukraine.
NATO should have drawn a line, and stopped Putin in his tracks. Appeasement never works
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Post by rusty on Apr 22, 2024 17:07:23 GMT -5
Nobody that makes decisions about such things is going to consult you or me I know they don't but they use my money to mismanage. do you mean by wasting it on the recounting of votes in the last presidential race? |
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Post by davet on Apr 23, 2024 6:13:30 GMT -5
Nobody that makes decisions about such things is going to consult you or me I know they don't but they use my money to mismanage. Ok....by the numbers. The Fed budget is $4,500,000,000,000. The Ukraine package is $60,800,000,000. That is 1.351% of the federal budget. So....let's say your household annual budget is $70,000. That would equate to $945. And further, let's say your federal income tax was $4,000. (Just the income tax, not the social security). That equates to $54. |
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Post by stroupy on Apr 23, 2024 6:16:20 GMT -5
I know they don't but they use my money to mismanage. Ok....by the numbers. The Fed budget is $4,500,000,000,000. The Ukraine package is $60,800,000,000. That is 1.351% of the federal budget. So....let's say your household annual budget is $70,000. That would equate to $945. And further, let's say your federal income tax was $4,000. (Just the income tax, not the social security). That equates to $54. I don't care if it's only a penny. It's the point of it. |
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Post by davet on Apr 23, 2024 6:18:10 GMT -5
Ok....by the numbers. The Fed budget is $4,500,000,000,000. The Ukraine package is $60,800,000,000. That is 1.351% of the federal budget. So....let's say your household annual budget is $70,000. That would equate to $945. And further, let's say your federal income tax was $4,000. (Just the income tax, not the social security). That equates to $54. I don't care if it's only a penny. It's the point of it. I'm gonna bet that you have spent $54 in the last year on something that was a total waste of money. |
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Post by stroupy on Apr 23, 2024 6:22:16 GMT -5
I don't care if it's only a penny. It's the point of it. I'm gonna bet that you have spent $54 in the last year on something that was a total waste of money. I waste money on chew but at least I control that. I say all the time taxes should work like church's do you donate money and pick how you want it used. If I want the debt paid down I should be able to put my money there not abortion not sending it to Ukraine. |
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 23, 2024 6:25:30 GMT -5
I waste money on chew but at least I control that. I say all the time taxes should work like church's do you donate money and pick how you want it used. If I want the debt paid down I should be able to put my money there not abortion not sending it to Ukraine. Run for office and work to change the laws. |
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Post by stroupy on Apr 23, 2024 6:31:35 GMT -5
I waste money on chew but at least I control that. I say all the time taxes should work like church's do you donate money and pick how you want it used. If I want the debt paid down I should be able to put my money there not abortion not sending it to Ukraine. Run for office and work to change the laws. I'm not slimy enough. I wouldn't be politically correct either. People only like when politicians blow smoke up their rears. I don't blow smoke. |
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Post by ridgecommander on Apr 23, 2024 6:43:23 GMT -5
I'm not slimy enough. I wouldn't be politically correct either. People only like when politicians blow smoke up their rears. I don't blow smoke. It worked for Trump? He is about as far from politically correct as they come and you claim he doesn't blow smoke and tells it like it is............. |
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