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[stroupy]

Apr 17, 2024 17:51:48 GMT -5 davet said:

Lemme ask you…..how’s that “forgive all” thing work out for the Catholic Church pedophile thing? You forgive those men? You forgive the Catholic Church for spending $2-million on political lobbying so the statute of limitations would not get changed instead of funding the victims?

That total and absolute forgiveness thing work in all circumstances?

Asking for a friend.

So you compare pedophilia and a guy having sex with a money hungry pornstar? You diploma toting fellas do seem to lack logic at times... You have an awful long reach as well.

[davet]

Apr 17, 2024 18:06:39 GMT -5 stroupy said:

Apr 17, 2024 17:51:48 GMT -5 davet said:

Lemme ask you…..how’s that “forgive all” thing work out for the Catholic Church pedophile thing? You forgive those men? You forgive the Catholic Church for spending $2-million on political lobbying so the statute of limitations would not get changed instead of funding the victims?

That total and absolute forgiveness thing work in all circumstances?

Asking for a friend.

So you compare pedophilia and a guy having sex with a money hungry pornstar? You diploma toting fellas do seem to lack logic at times... You have an awful long reach as well.

Not “comparing” anything to anything. Asking if the forgiveness thing of all wrongs apply across the board.

Asking if the public should forgive all “misjudgments” done. Forgive everything from calling someone dumb to murder. Does it apply across the board or is there a bright line?

[stroupy]

Apr 17, 2024 18:22:03 GMT -5 davet said:

Apr 17, 2024 18:06:39 GMT -5 stroupy said:

So you compare pedophilia and a guy having sex with a money hungry pornstar? You diploma toting fellas do seem to lack logic at times... You have an awful long reach as well.

Not “comparing” anything to anything. Asking if the forgiveness thing of all wrongs apply across the board.

Asking if the public should forgive all “misjudgments” done. Forgive everything from calling someone dumb to murder. Does it apply across the board or is there a bright line?

If going off the Bible then I believe the answer is yes. I didn't make the rules so the finger isn't on me.

[jwk]

Apr 17, 2024 17:51:48 GMT -5 davet said:

Lemme ask you…..how’s that “forgive all” thing work out for the Catholic Church pedophile thing? You forgive those men? You forgive the Catholic Church for spending $2-million on political lobbying so the statute of limitations would not get changed instead of funding the victims?

That total and absolute forgiveness thing work in all circumstances?

Asking for a friend.

Ask the good catholic Joe Biden about pedophilia. He is a creep. 

[CoureurDeBois]

Apr 17, 2024 16:43:16 GMT -5 davet said:

Apr 17, 2024 16:32:27 GMT -5 CoureurDeBois said:

How do you know he hasn’t repented his sins?
I sure don’t broadcast everything I pray for or ask God for, do you?

And the Lord said......sell my book and raise campaign monies from dollars that would usually go to churches. The Lord said "My Book...you know,...,that one you've never read"......

Wow, you must really be something to know what I don’t read or what I do read. Do you tell fortunes reading tarot cards or just consult an ouija board?

[jwk]

Apr 17, 2024 20:47:48 GMT -5 CoureurDeBois said:

Apr 17, 2024 16:43:16 GMT -5 davet said:

And the Lord said......sell my book and raise campaign monies from dollars that would usually go to churches. The Lord said "My Book...you know,...,that one you've never read"......

Wow, you must really be something to know what I don’t read or what I do read. Do you tell fortunes reading tarot cards or just consult an ouija board?

Oh, he knew that I don't do anything for public schools. "because he would have heard about it if I did"

[CoureurDeBois]

Apr 17, 2024 17:51:48 GMT -5 davet said:

Lemme ask you…..how’s that “forgive all” thing work out for the Catholic Church pedophile thing? You forgive those men? You forgive the Catholic Church for spending $2-million on political lobbying so the statute of limitations would not get changed instead of funding the victims?

That total and absolute forgiveness thing work in all circumstances?

Asking for a friend.

I’m not Catholic so I don’t have a horse in this race.
The Bible does say we need to forgive. Jesus said on the cross, “Farther forgive them, for they know not what they do.”
I have forgiven some, in other respects I have just moved on. I have no malice in my heart for anyone or anything.

[CoureurDeBois]

Apr 17, 2024 18:22:03 GMT -5 davet said:

Apr 17, 2024 18:06:39 GMT -5 stroupy said:

So you compare pedophilia and a guy having sex with a money hungry pornstar? You diploma toting fellas do seem to lack logic at times... You have an awful long reach as well.

Not “comparing” anything to anything. Asking if the forgiveness thing of all wrongs apply across the board.

Asking if the public should forgive all “misjudgments” done. Forgive everything from calling someone dumb to murder. Does it apply across the board or is there a bright line?

“If you forgive people their sins, your Father in heaven will forgive your sins also. If you do not forgive people their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.
Matthew 6:14-15

[davet]

Apr 17, 2024 21:23:45 GMT -5 CoureurDeBois said:

Apr 17, 2024 18:22:03 GMT -5 davet said:

Not “comparing” anything to anything. Asking if the forgiveness thing of all wrongs apply across the board.

Asking if the public should forgive all “misjudgments” done. Forgive everything from calling someone dumb to murder. Does it apply across the board or is there a bright line?

“If you forgive people their sins, your Father in heaven will forgive your sins also. If you do not forgive people their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.
Matthew 6:14-15

Remember, I'm asking for what you think. To simply post what is stated in the Bible is not an answer. It's a deflection to posting what YOU think. The easy way out is to toss back Biblical quotes....for example: (Take a close look at the last two)

Proverbs 14:15
The simple believes everything, but the prudent gives thought to his steps.
2 Timothy 2:7
Think over what I say, for the Lord will give you understanding in everything.
1 Thessalonians 5:21
But test everything; hold fast what is good.
1 John 4:1
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
Proverbs 18:17
The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

[davet]

[moosemike]

Apr 17, 2024 18:22:03 GMT -5 davet said:

Apr 17, 2024 18:06:39 GMT -5 stroupy said:

So you compare pedophilia and a guy having sex with a money hungry pornstar? You diploma toting fellas do seem to lack logic at times... You have an awful long reach as well.

Not “comparing” anything to anything. Asking if the forgiveness thing of all wrongs apply across the board.

Asking if the public should forgive all “misjudgments” done. Forgive everything from calling someone dumb to murder. Does it apply across the board or is there a bright line?

Forgive the sinner and hate the sin

[rusty]

Apr 17, 2024 20:45:03 GMT -5 jwk said:

Apr 17, 2024 17:51:48 GMT -5 davet said:

Lemme ask you…..how’s that “forgive all” thing work out for the Catholic Church pedophile thing? You forgive those men? You forgive the Catholic Church for spending $2-million on political lobbying so the statute of limitations would not get changed instead of funding the victims?

That total and absolute forgiveness thing work in all circumstances?

Asking for a friend.

Ask the good catholic Joe Biden about pedophilia. He is a creep. 

You do know that pics, video, even audio of Biden interacting with childrn have been proven to have been doctored don't you?  you would never hear that fact on foxnews or the other cult media outlets, 
Accusing, or implying that someone could be a pedophile, should be punished with the same consequence a pedophile would suffer when found guilty. Save your criticism for the real sickos like Matt Gaetz and teddy the draft dodging pedi Nugent.

Oh, and the reports of the faked images and audio are reported by Rueter's and the AP, ranked the least biased of news sources.

[davet]

Apr 17, 2024 21:14:53 GMT -5 CoureurDeBois said:

Apr 17, 2024 17:51:48 GMT -5 davet said:

Lemme ask you…..how’s that “forgive all” thing work out for the Catholic Church pedophile thing? You forgive those men? You forgive the Catholic Church for spending $2-million on political lobbying so the statute of limitations would not get changed instead of funding the victims?

That total and absolute forgiveness thing work in all circumstances?

Asking for a friend.

I’m not Catholic so I don’t have a horse in this race.
The Bible does say we need to forgive. Jesus said on the cross, “Farther forgive them, for they know not what they do.”
I have forgiven some, in other respects I have just moved on. I have no malice in my heart for anyone or anything.

So, if I understand you right, because you're not Catholic what those priest did, and what the higher up of the Church's cover-up, the paying a lobbyist to stop the law concerning the statute of limitations, ......because you're not Catholic you give that one a "pass". Doesn't matter as it didn't affect you...so out of sight out of mind. Yet you do know their victims live in our society every day and those events have had significant downward impacts on them. 

And if you get pressed on the matter you toss out a few Biblical quotes as some sort of well thought out answer? That's your critical response to the really tough questions? No opinions......just quotes.

I guess that's how you justify supporting Trump. It's the "He never grabbed my wife\daughter so it doesn't affect me directly so out of sight out of mind".

Yet when I critically look at your response where you say "I have forgiven some"....I read that you have also not forgiven all. Perhaps it's just those who directly effect you that do not get this "forgiveness" that you speak of. 

Perhaps you should look at Trump like you do those in the "haven't forgiven" category. And just for a moment admit and understand what type of person he really is. 

Then perhaps your eyes will be open. 

[CoureurDeBois]

Apr 18, 2024 4:27:33 GMT -5 davet said:

Apr 17, 2024 21:23:45 GMT -5 CoureurDeBois said:

“If you forgive people their sins, your Father in heaven will forgive your sins also. If you do not forgive people their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.
Matthew 6:14-15

Remember, I'm asking for what you think. To simply post what is stated in the Bible is not an answer. It's a deflection to posting what YOU think. The easy way out is to toss back Biblical quotes....for example: (Take a close look at the last two)

Proverbs 14:15
The simple believes everything, but the prudent gives thought to his steps.
2 Timothy 2:7
Think over what I say, for the Lord will give you understanding in everything.
1 Thessalonians 5:21
But test everything; hold fast what is good.
1 John 4:1
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
Proverbs 18:17
The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

You did get what I think, if what I think happened to come from the Bible, that’s your problem not mine. I got my teaching from the Bible starting at a young age, and believe what it says. That I copied and posted quotes from the Bible to represent what I believe, is a proper thing to do. I’m not a highly educated man, though I do have some college, putting into words, spoken or written isn’t one of my strong points. So I sometimes use the writings of others because it is written more eloquently, to convey what I think. You should also notice I try, I sometime forget, to use quotations marks when using what something someone else said. I also usually, unlike some others, include sources when it doesn’t come directly from me like you did in this post. It’s saves time if someone wants to expand on the post, or discuss further what was stated.
I have heard, and seen written, that the answers to all of ones problems can be found in the Bible. I also think this is true, problem is I/we seldom take the time to research it there.
I do try to read a couple chapters from a study Bible every morning, one from the old and one from the new. My trouble though is that I fail at it miserably.

[rusty]

Know what you do of the Bibles teachings, CDB, do you honestly believe Trump gives the word of God any consideration further than what he might be able to say to get the more gullible evangelicals to buy for support?

[jwk]

Apr 18, 2024 13:43:45 GMT -5 rusty said:

Apr 17, 2024 20:45:03 GMT -5 jwk said:

Ask the good catholic Joe Biden about pedophilia. He is a creep. 

You do know that pics, video, even audio of Biden interacting with childrn have been proven to have been doctored don't you?  you would never hear that fact on foxnews or the other cult media outlets, 
Accusing, or implying that someone could be a pedophile, should be punished with the same consequence a pedophile would suffer when found guilty. Save your criticism for the real sickos like Matt Gaetz and teddy the draft dodging pedi Nugent.

Oh, and the reports of the faked images and audio are reported by Rueter's and the AP, ranked the least biased of news sources.

I guess he never said he used to let the kids rub his hairy legs either?

Look at the girls reaction followed by the mothers equally disgusted reaction.

[davet]

Apr 18, 2024 15:45:11 GMT -5 CoureurDeBois said:

Apr 18, 2024 4:27:33 GMT -5 davet said:

Remember, I'm asking for what you think. To simply post what is stated in the Bible is not an answer. It's a deflection to posting what YOU think. The easy way out is to toss back Biblical quotes....for example: (Take a close look at the last two)

Proverbs 14:15
The simple believes everything, but the prudent gives thought to his steps.
2 Timothy 2:7
Think over what I say, for the Lord will give you understanding in everything.
1 Thessalonians 5:21
But test everything; hold fast what is good.
1 John 4:1
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
Proverbs 18:17
The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.

You did get what I think, if what I think happened to come from the Bible, that’s your problem not mine. I got my teaching from the Bible starting at a young age, and believe what it says. That I copied and posted quotes from the Bible to represent what I believe, is a proper thing to do. I’m not a highly educated man, though I do have some college, putting into words, spoken or written isn’t one of my strong points. So I sometimes use the writings of others because it is written more eloquently, to convey what I think. You should also notice I try, I sometime forget, to use quotations marks when using what something someone else said. I also usually, unlike some others, include sources when it doesn’t come directly from me like you did in this post. It’s saves time if someone wants to expand on the post, or discuss further what was stated.
I have heard, and seen written, that the answers to all of ones problems can be found in the Bible. I also think this is true, problem is I/we seldom take the time to research it there.
I do try to read a couple chapters from a study Bible every morning, one from the old and one from the new. My trouble though is that I fail at it miserably.

There's people who rely on the Bible and Church for guidance in good times and bad times. There's people who look at the whole of the Bible to help them make their independent, critical thinking and judgement when it comes to serious and not so serious matters.

Then there's people who hide behind the quotes.

See yourself there?

[CoureurDeBois]

Apr 18, 2024 17:48:21 GMT -5 davet said:

Apr 18, 2024 15:45:11 GMT -5 CoureurDeBois said:

You did get what I think, if what I think happened to come from the Bible, that’s your problem not mine. I got my teaching from the Bible starting at a young age, and believe what it says. That I copied and posted quotes from the Bible to represent what I believe, is a proper thing to do. I’m not a highly educated man, though I do have some college, putting into words, spoken or written isn’t one of my strong points. So I sometimes use the writings of others because it is written more eloquently, to convey what I think. You should also notice I try, I sometime forget, to use quotations marks when using what something someone else said. I also usually, unlike some others, include sources when it doesn’t come directly from me like you did in this post. It’s saves time if someone wants to expand on the post, or discuss further what was stated.
I have heard, and seen written, that the answers to all of ones problems can be found in the Bible. I also think this is true, problem is I/we seldom take the time to research it there.
I do try to read a couple chapters from a study Bible every morning, one from the old and one from the new. My trouble though is that I fail at it miserably.

There's people who rely on the Bible and Church for guidance in good times and bad times. There's people who look at the whole of the Bible to help them make their independent, critical thinking and judgement when it comes to serious and not so serious matters.

Then there's people who hide behind the quotes.

See yourself there?

Davet I don’t know what you want, you keep coming out with garbage, maybe it makes you feel superior, OK you win.
You know how I feel about your incompetent, senile President.” He!!" he even came out today saying his Uncle was shot down in a jungle during WW2 and eaten by cannibals. The official report said the plane went down in the ocean and the body wasn’t recovered.
You know how I feel you acknowledged it on hpa. I’m going to repost it on here so everyone knows why I’m voting for Trump.
Say what you want,I’m tired and it’s been a long day.
Everybody have skeletons in their closet, even the current president. I could care less. I’ll vote for the man that I feel will do best for America, and that share isn’t Biden.

[rusty]

Apr 18, 2024 17:10:18 GMT -5 jwk said:

Apr 18, 2024 13:43:45 GMT -5 rusty said:

You do know that pics, video, even audio of Biden interacting with childrn have been proven to have been doctored don't you?  you would never hear that fact on foxnews or the other cult media outlets, 
Accusing, or implying that someone could be a pedophile, should be punished with the same consequence a pedophile would suffer when found guilty. Save your criticism for the real sickos like Matt Gaetz and teddy the draft dodging pedi Nugent.

Oh, and the reports of the faked images and audio are reported by Rueter's and the AP, ranked the least biased of news sources.

I guess he never said he used to let the kids rub his hairy legs either?

Look at the girls reaction followed by the mothers equally disgusted reaction.

The cult will work to spread lies and inuendo while showing love for a traitorous rapist who is on tape bragging, “I’m automatically attracted to beautiful women — I just start kissing them, it’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything," he said in the 2005 conversation. "Grab 'em by the pussy."  

And don't forget his "perfect" phone call to corrupt the vote count in Georgia.

How can anyone who cares about this country want to vote for this criminal?  Trump would laugh at most of the people who so feverously support him and have them kicked out of any of his establishments. But he would gladly sale them a Bible, sneakers, or a few hundred shares in DJT

[CoureurDeBois]

Apr 18, 2024 16:29:29 GMT -5 rusty said:

Know what you do of the Bibles teachings, CDB, do you honestly believe Trump gives the word of God any consideration further than what he might be able to say to get the more gullible evangelicals to buy for support?

I don’t. know. Do any of us really know whats in the mind of a politician.
But I do think he’s more of a Godly man than Biden.
Most of us, if not all, will have some explaining to do on judgement day. I know if God ask me on that day why he should let me into heaven by my deeds on earth, the only honest answer I could give him is, You Shouldn’t. But I am a believer, and I know my sins were paid on the cross by his son Jesus. I also know Jesus said;“I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live."

[CoureurDeBois]

THIS IS WHY I’M VOTING FOR TRUMP COME NOVEMBER

America can’t survive another 4 years of Biden. We are no longer sovereign country. Crime is running full speed ahead in our cities, and soon will over spill into the outskirts. Illegals keep pouring into our country by the millions, just how long can we survive. Just how long till the American people say we had enough and pick up arms to stop it. Where is the money coming from to support these illegals, let alone the increase in the cost of living for most citizens. How many are here to harm us , or have you forgot about 9-11, they’re here and they mean to do us harm. This all happened on Biden’s watch, and it’s on him.
No we didn’t put up with Obama for 8 years, we have been putting up with him for going on 12 years. What rock have you been hiding under the past 4 years that you think Biden is running this country. Take a good hard look at the man. Unfortunately he’s a senile old man, being controlled by the man behind the Curtin. Unless he reading off cue cards or has an ear piece on he completely incoherent.
Take a hard look at his VP, she’s only a heart beat away from POTUS. Do you really want her running the country if that happened. She couldn’t pour pee out of her shoes if the directions were written on the bottom of the shoes.

[rusty]

I agree with all you say there except for trump being more Godly than Biden. A tree is known by it's fruit. Trump is more like a noxious weed.
Ours is not to judge, but we do have eyes to see and ears to hear.

[davet]

Apr 18, 2024 19:05:50 GMT -5 CoureurDeBois said:

THIS IS WHY I’M VOTING FOR TRUMP COME NOVEMBER

America can’t survive another 4 years of Biden. We are no longer sovereign country. Crime is running full speed ahead in our cities, and soon will over spill into the outskirts. Illegals keep pouring into our country by the millions, just how long can we survive. Just how long till the American people say we had enough and pick up arms to stop it. Where is the money coming from to support these illegals, let alone the increase in the cost of living for most citizens. How many are here to harm us , or have you forgot about 9-11, they’re here and they mean to do us harm. This all happened on Biden’s watch, and it’s on him.
No we didn’t put up with Obama for 8 years, we have been putting up with him for going on 12 years. What rock have you been hiding under the past 4 years that you think Biden is running this country. Take a good hard look at the man. Unfortunately he’s a senile old man, being controlled by the man behind the Curtin. Unless he reading off cue cards or has an ear piece on he completely incoherent.
Take a hard look at his VP, she’s only a heart beat away from POTUS. Do you really want her running the country if that happened. She couldn’t pour pee out of her shoes if the directions were written on the bottom of the shoes.

You’re delusional. You promote conspiracy theories and have nothing to support that except your buddies on another forum & the BS that Fox Entertainment promotes. They lost a billion on ther promotion of lies & you still get suckered in on there carp.

I may not prefer Kamala but you don’t even know who Orangy’s VP will be.

You speak of Biden not being coherent unless there are cue cards but you refuse to see the same in Donny.

But you don’t forgive Kamala for her transgressions as you spout that you do for “all”.

[CoureurDeBois]

Apr 18, 2024 21:54:58 GMT -5 davet said:

Apr 18, 2024 19:05:50 GMT -5 CoureurDeBois said:

THIS IS WHY I’M VOTING FOR TRUMP COME NOVEMBER

America can’t survive another 4 years of Biden. We are no longer sovereign country. Crime is running full speed ahead in our cities, and soon will over spill into the outskirts. Illegals keep pouring into our country by the millions, just how long can we survive. Just how long till the American people say we had enough and pick up arms to stop it. Where is the money coming from to support these illegals, let alone the increase in the cost of living for most citizens. How many are here to harm us , or have you forgot about 9-11, they’re here and they mean to do us harm. This all happened on Biden’s watch, and it’s on him.
No we didn’t put up with Obama for 8 years, we have been putting up with him for going on 12 years. What rock have you been hiding under the past 4 years that you think Biden is running this country. Take a good hard look at the man. Unfortunately he’s a senile old man, being controlled by the man behind the Curtin. Unless he reading off cue cards or has an ear piece on he completely incoherent.
Take a hard look at his VP, she’s only a heart beat away from POTUS. Do you really want her running the country if that happened. She couldn’t pour pee out of her shoes if the directions were written on the bottom of the shoes.

You’re delusional. You promote conspiracy theories and have nothing to support that except your buddies on another forum & the BS that Fox Entertainment promotes. They lost a billion on ther promotion of lies & you still get suckered in on there carp.

I may not prefer Kamala but you don’t even know who Orangy’s VP will be.

You speak of Biden not being coherent unless there are cue cards but you refuse to see the same in Donny.

But you don’t forgive Kamala for her transgressions as you spout that you do for “all”.

“ Vengeance is mine saith the lord.”
Deuteronomy 32:35 & Romans 12:17-19
Open your Bible you might learn something and at the same time save your soul.
If you don’t have one I would suggest, The Jeremiah Study Bible by Dr. David Jeremiah. I like NIV version, but it comes in other versions also. It even comes in large print for people like you that “just can’t see.” Or you could buy one of Trump’s Bibles.
I just saw where CNN, MSNBC has the lowest viewer ratings ever. Saw CNN laid off a whole bunch of people. It was uncovered that NPR editors is made up of all Democrats except one, so I can understand why you’re brainwashed.

[Dutch]

Ok guys, let's tone this down!