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Apr 3, 2024 9:32:43 GMT -5
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Post by Dutch on Apr 3, 2024 9:32:43 GMT -5
When Trump says a country needs to pay their dues, it's not to NATO. NATO countries are supposed to spend 2% of GDP on defense, that is what he is referring to
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Apr 3, 2024 9:39:58 GMT -5
Yep, we’re screwed no matter who wins. If Biden wins, war will come to America's soil. What I don’t know is if it will be domestic or foreign. Biden is too weak of a leader to stop it either way. If I’m wrong on that one, and I hope I am. Then America will likely turn into a very large third world type nation. Due to the influx of illegals and the spending of money we don’t have. No nation will attack us by land. The attacks will come from within. I agree. What scares me, is the foreign army may already be here, or be able to recruit it within now. We can’t have an open border for four years and not have influx of people from nations that would like to do us harm.
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Apr 3, 2024 9:42:03 GMT -5
When Trump says a country needs to pay their dues, it's not to NATO. NATO countries are supposed to spend 2% of GDP on defense, that is what he is referring to I think he was referring to both. A lot of NATO nations paid up after he made that statement.
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Post by davet on Apr 3, 2024 10:05:59 GMT -5
We had a lot of anti war protest in the 60’s. We had fear mongers under McCarthy. Kennedy was assassinated as was his brother, and Martin Luther King. That’s during a time when racial hate was socially acceptable. Anyone remember Wallace?
Point is this country survived this and more and we are still here. If Trump loses and his cult picks up weapons it will be to their peril. And that’s fine. It’s called Darwin.
But I see the glass half full. Not the doom and gloom of naysayers.
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Post by Loggy on Apr 3, 2024 10:27:50 GMT -5
We had a lot of anti war protest in the 60’s. We had fear mongers under McCarthy. Kennedy was assassinated as was his brother, and Martin Luther King. That’s during a time when racial hate was socially acceptable. Anyone remember Wallace? Point is this country survived this and more and we are still here. If Trump loses and his cult picks up weapons it will be to their peril. And that’s fine. It’s called Darwin. But I see the glass half full. Not the doom and gloom of naysayers. 1/6 could of been swiftly ended in 5-10 minutes as I suspect any resemblance of a rerun will be.
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Post by rusty on Apr 3, 2024 11:09:55 GMT -5
We had a lot of anti war protest in the 60’s. We had fear mongers under McCarthy. Kennedy was assassinated as was his brother, and Martin Luther King. That’s during a time when racial hate was socially acceptable. Anyone remember Wallace? Point is this country survived this and more and we are still here. If Trump loses and his cult picks up weapons it will be to their peril. And that’s fine. It’s called Darwin. But I see the glass half full. Not the doom and gloom of naysayers. And what will happen to our current gun laws if the cult tries to raise arms against our government? And with one of trump's allies talking likes this: “I want to know why what happened in Minamar (sic)can't happen here?” a member of the audience, who identified himself as a Marine, asked Flynn. “No reason, I mean, it should happen here. No reason. That's right,” Flynn responded. Jun 1, 2021 Trump's team may already have a plan in the works.
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Apr 3, 2024 11:46:09 GMT -5
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Post by moosemike on Apr 3, 2024 11:46:09 GMT -5
We had a lot of anti war protest in the 60’s. We had fear mongers under McCarthy. Kennedy was assassinated as was his brother, and Martin Luther King. That’s during a time when racial hate was socially acceptable. Anyone remember Wallace? Point is this country survived this and more and we are still here. If Trump loses and his cult picks up weapons it will be to their peril. And that’s fine. It’s called Darwin. But I see the glass half full. Not the doom and gloom of naysayers. 1/6 could of been swiftly ended in 5-10 minutes as I suspect any resemblance of a rerun will be. If they can organize and get some foreign assistance, they can absolutely topple this government
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Post by moosemike on Apr 3, 2024 11:49:41 GMT -5
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Post by moosemike on Apr 3, 2024 11:54:05 GMT -5
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Apr 3, 2024 12:17:35 GMT -5
We had a lot of anti war protest in the 60’s. We had fear mongers under McCarthy. Kennedy was assassinated as was his brother, and Martin Luther King. That’s during a time when racial hate was socially acceptable. Anyone remember Wallace? Point is this country survived this and more and we are still here. If Trump loses and his cult picks up weapons it will be to their peril. And that’s fine. It’s called Darwin. But I see the glass half full. Not the doom and gloom of naysayers. Yes the country survived, can’t say the same about 4 students at Kent State though. Lest we forget.
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Post by davet on Apr 3, 2024 12:42:10 GMT -5
We had a lot of anti war protest in the 60’s. We had fear mongers under McCarthy. Kennedy was assassinated as was his brother, and Martin Luther King. That’s during a time when racial hate was socially acceptable. Anyone remember Wallace? Point is this country survived this and more and we are still here. If Trump loses and his cult picks up weapons it will be to their peril. And that’s fine. It’s called Darwin. But I see the glass half full. Not the doom and gloom of naysayers. Yes the country survived, can’t say the same about 4 students at Kent State though. Lest we forget. It’s my guess that if the Trumpetts pick up arms….#1..who they gonna shoot at, and #2..once they figure out that lead is coming back how many will drop their weapons like a French army & run like little girls screaming into the night.
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Apr 3, 2024 12:56:01 GMT -5
It’s my guess that if the Trumpetts pick up arms….#1..who they gonna shoot at, and #2..once they figure out that lead is coming back how many will drop their weapons like a French army & run like little girls screaming into the night.
Good Question, But what makes you think it’s going to be Trump followers and not Biden followers that fire the first shots? Especially when 40% of strong Democrats think so.
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Post by jwk on Apr 3, 2024 13:09:13 GMT -5
It's kind of funny (or not) how liberals are always talking about Trump supporters are fear mongering, doom and gloom that only use scare tactics and then I read some of the stuff on here. It boggles the mind.
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Post by davet on Apr 3, 2024 13:11:29 GMT -5
It's kind of funny (or not) how liberals are always talking about Trump supporters are fear mongering, doom and gloom that only use scare tactics and then I read some of the stuff on here. It boggles the mind. What “stuff” are you saying is fear mongering?
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Post by dougl on Apr 3, 2024 14:46:17 GMT -5
Trump will be a dictator and never leave office.
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Post by davet on Apr 3, 2024 15:42:09 GMT -5
Trump will be a dictator and never leave office. Why else would he have dinner with Orban?
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Post by Loggy on Apr 3, 2024 17:31:07 GMT -5
Yes the country survived, can’t say the same about 4 students at Kent State though. Lest we forget. It’s my guess that if the Trumpetts pick up arms….#1..who they gonna shoot at, and #2..once they figure out that lead is coming back how many will drop their weapons like a French army & run like little girls screaming into the night. Amen Dave!! When a combined force of 14,000 US Marshals & FBI Agents along with riot cleansing equipment show up all you will see is fleeing sh!t trails on the ground. Too many are watching & following Rambo/military wannabe type crap. Our government has options to protect/preserve America’s democracy that you never even dreamed of.
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Post by Dutch on Apr 3, 2024 17:44:29 GMT -5
Trump will be a dictator and never leave office. He will be removed if the next President is sworn in
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Post by CoureurDeBois on Apr 3, 2024 17:58:28 GMT -5
It’s my guess that if the Trumpetts pick up arms….#1..who they gonna shoot at, and #2..once they figure out that lead is coming back how many will drop their weapons like a French army & run like little girls screaming into the night. Amen Dave!! When a combined force of 14,000 US Marshals & FBI Agents along with riot cleansing equipment show up all you will see is fleeing sh!t trails on the ground. Too many are watching & following Rambo/military wannabe type crap. Our government has options to protect/preserve America’s democracy that you never even dreamed of. You are under the assumption that all the military will side with the government, they will not. If you knew anything about history and the last civil war you would know that. Our government figured the first battle of Bull Run would end it, until they high tailed it back to Washington with their tail between there legs.
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Post by davet on Apr 3, 2024 18:06:07 GMT -5
Trump will be a dictator and never leave office. Why else would he have dinner with Orban? Crickets.....crickets.....
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Apr 3, 2024 18:20:11 GMT -5
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Post by moosemike on Apr 3, 2024 18:20:11 GMT -5
The military is very pro MAGA and very pro 2nd amendment. The military by and large is right wing
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Post by davet on Apr 3, 2024 18:23:47 GMT -5
A few unrelated issues that shows where some, not all, of our country is today. #1--Trump continues to call any Jan 6th rioter who is in jail "hostages". Who thinks if he gets elected....#1: Trump will pardon anyone who was convicted. #2--And why would he do that? Ask Orban....I'll bet he knows the reason. Anyone who believes that racist are in a small minority....they need to open their eyes. Blevins a white nationalistBlevins who did not disclose his ties to a white nationalist organization before he was elected, had a recall vote once his ties were made public...and then he was ousted. In a total votes cast of 1,390 votes, 40% voted to keep him in office. But even scarier than that is his backers are still out there.
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Post by Loggy on Apr 3, 2024 18:33:00 GMT -5
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Apr 3, 2024 18:50:48 GMT -5
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Post by moosemike on Apr 3, 2024 18:50:48 GMT -5
No I'm not. My son has spent the last 8 years in this military
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Post by stroupy on Apr 3, 2024 18:57:08 GMT -5
It's kind of funny (or not) how liberals are always talking about Trump supporters are fear mongering, doom and gloom that only use scare tactics and then I read some of the stuff on here. It boggles the mind. Yep, if Trump still was in and was trying to arrest his political opponent before the election then we would be hearing about it. When he was in everyone was complaining. Now he is not in office and they are still complaining about him. lol you just can't win. The guy arresting his opponent isn't being called a dictator now is he?
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