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Post by Dutch on Mar 26, 2024 19:08:40 GMT -5
RFK's longstanding extremist/whacko anti-vax stance will grab more borderline MAGA's vs Democrats & nonaffiliated mainstreamers. I know parents with young children are scared to death of him. Just one example: RFK Jr AntiVax ExtremismA long read, but excellent example of how influencers are considered experts,and the experts are denounced and threatened. Anyone with a brain cell,and Google, knows the measles vaccine is a good thing. I'm sure, in his mind, the Polio vaccine is bad as well
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Post by stroupy on Mar 26, 2024 19:21:49 GMT -5
RFK doesn't argue against vaccinations he brings good points up and just because a vaccine eliminates something doesn't mean it might not cause an issue. If people would watch him talk about it you would understand, but people won't. With the sharp rise of Autism and things it should not be passed off and in fact studied. One google search says air pollution... Yep air pollution but injecting something in someones body no way no how.
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Post by rusty on Mar 26, 2024 19:46:45 GMT -5
From the AP;
Again and again, Kennedy has made his opposition to vaccines clear. In July, Kennedy said in a podcast interview that “There’s no vaccine that is safe and effective” and told FOX News that he still believes in the long-ago debunked idea that vaccines can cause autism. In a 2021 podcast he urged people to “resist” CDC guidelines on when kids should get vaccines.
“I see somebody on a hiking trail carrying a little baby and I say to him, better not get them vaccinated,” Kennedy said.
That same year, in a video promoting an anti-vaccine sticker campaign by his nonprofit, Kennedy appeared onscreen next to one sticker that declared “IF YOU’RE NOT AN ANTI-VAXXER YOU AREN’T PAYING ATTENTION.”
A close examination of Kennedy’s campaign finance filings shows that the anti-vaccine movement lies at the heart of his campaign
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Post by davet on Mar 27, 2024 5:08:44 GMT -5
RFK doesn't argue against vaccinations he brings good points up and just because a vaccine eliminates something doesn't mean it might not cause an issue. If people would watch him talk about it you would understand, but people won't. With the sharp rise of Autism and things it should not be passed off and in fact studied. One google search says air pollution... Yep air pollution but injecting something in someones body no way no how. So....lemme get this....you trust the medical numbers published by the medical community concerning Autism and the reported increases in that condition, yet you don't trust the results of a vaccine? Both reports are summarized and published by the medical community. One supports your false argument, the other doesn't. One is good.....one is bad. Just so I got it.
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Post by stroupy on Mar 27, 2024 5:14:35 GMT -5
From the AP; Again and again, Kennedy has made his opposition to vaccines clear. In July, Kennedy said in a podcast interview that “There’s no vaccine that is safe and effective” and told FOX News that he still believes in the long-ago debunked idea that vaccines can cause autism. In a 2021 podcast he urged people to “resist” CDC guidelines on when kids should get vaccines.
“I see somebody on a hiking trail carrying a little baby and I say to him, better not get them vaccinated,” Kennedy said.
That same year, in a video promoting an anti-vaccine sticker campaign by his nonprofit, Kennedy appeared onscreen next to one sticker that declared “IF YOU’RE NOT AN ANTI-VAXXER YOU AREN’T PAYING ATTENTION.”
A close examination of Kennedy’s campaign finance filings shows that the anti-vaccine movement lies at the heart of his campaignWhere is the actual interview? Just because someone wrote it and made it sound like he said something doesn't make it true. If I could see the video and that usually tells another story, because the videos I watched of him he explained his stance.
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Post by stroupy on Mar 27, 2024 5:15:59 GMT -5
RFK doesn't argue against vaccinations he brings good points up and just because a vaccine eliminates something doesn't mean it might not cause an issue. If people would watch him talk about it you would understand, but people won't. With the sharp rise of Autism and things it should not be passed off and in fact studied. One google search says air pollution... Yep air pollution but injecting something in someones body no way no how. So....lemme get this....you trust the medical numbers published by the medical community concerning Autism and the reported increases in that condition, yet you don't trust the results of a vaccine? Both reports are summarized and published by the medical community. One supports your false argument, the other doesn't. One is good.....one is bad. Just so I got it. After covid I don't trust much of what your medical professionals say. Flip flops were their favorite type of shoe and sh*tting on people's rights and that ol constitution you guys go on and on about they sh*t on too.
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Post by davet on Mar 27, 2024 5:18:20 GMT -5
So....lemme get this....you trust the medical numbers published by the medical community concerning Autism and the reported increases in that condition, yet you don't trust the results of a vaccine? Both reports are summarized and published by the medical community. One supports your false argument, the other doesn't. One is good.....one is bad. Just so I got it. After covid I don't trust much of what your medical professionals say. Flip flops were their favorite type of shoe and sh*tting on people's rights and that ol constitution you guys go on and on about they sh*t on too. Yet...you still trust the Autism publish numbers as that supports your false argument.
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Post by bushmaster on Mar 27, 2024 5:20:37 GMT -5
Far as I'm concerned, he's a good Republican! LOL Glad he's running and careless about his views on anything. Won't get my vote, but will take many.
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Post by stroupy on Mar 27, 2024 5:21:37 GMT -5
After covid I don't trust much of what your medical professionals say. Flip flops were their favorite type of shoe and sh*tting on people's rights and that ol constitution you guys go on and on about they sh*t on too. Yet...you still trust the Autism publish numbers as that supports your false argument. No I said that there is a sharp rise and something that is injected into your body could play a role it should be studied not denied. You can stay closed minded to it. What about your covid virus that was going to kill you? Shut down kids from school shut down people from worship. Yeah you side with that.
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Post by davet on Mar 27, 2024 5:24:08 GMT -5
Yet...you still trust the Autism publish numbers as that supports your false argument. No I said that there is a sharp rise and something that is injected into your body could play a role it should be studied not denied. You can stay closed minded to it. What about your covid virus that was going to kill you? Shut down kids from school shut down people from worship. Yeah you side with that. My aunt died from COVID. My BIL was on a ventilator for 6 days and almost died from COVID. I have other examples of people I knew. Your point?
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Post by stroupy on Mar 27, 2024 5:26:55 GMT -5
No I said that there is a sharp rise and something that is injected into your body could play a role it should be studied not denied. You can stay closed minded to it. What about your covid virus that was going to kill you? Shut down kids from school shut down people from worship. Yeah you side with that. My aunt died from COVID. My BIL was on a ventilator for 6 days and almost died from COVID. I have other examples of people I knew. Your point? The hysteria and false crap that you people pushed to shut down people's rights in the name of covid because you thought you were going to die. You supported sh*tting on the constitution with false crap is why I brought it up.
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Post by moosemike on Mar 27, 2024 5:37:07 GMT -5
I always was largely anti Vax. I only let my son have the basics because I didn't want him autistic. Yeah we knew about it even back then. The Army made up for that by giving him every Vax I didn't. But at least he was an adult by then and wasn't going to become autistic
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Post by rusty on Mar 27, 2024 6:18:30 GMT -5
From the AP; Again and again, Kennedy has made his opposition to vaccines clear. In July, Kennedy said in a podcast interview that “There’s no vaccine that is safe and effective” and told FOX News that he still believes in the long-ago debunked idea that vaccines can cause autism. In a 2021 podcast he urged people to “resist” CDC guidelines on when kids should get vaccines.
“I see somebody on a hiking trail carrying a little baby and I say to him, better not get them vaccinated,” Kennedy said.
That same year, in a video promoting an anti-vaccine sticker campaign by his nonprofit, Kennedy appeared onscreen next to one sticker that declared “IF YOU’RE NOT AN ANTI-VAXXER YOU AREN’T PAYING ATTENTION.”
A close examination of Kennedy’s campaign finance filings shows that the anti-vaccine movement lies at the heart of his campaignWhere is the actual interview? Just because someone wrote it and made it sound like he said something doesn't make it true. If I could see the video and that usually tells another story, because the videos I watched of him he explained his stance. We need a Laughing button we can click on when replies like stroup's here are made.
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Post by rusty on Mar 27, 2024 6:22:16 GMT -5
My aunt died from COVID. My BIL was on a ventilator for 6 days and almost died from COVID. I have other examples of people I knew. Your point? The hysteria and false crap that you people pushed to shut down people's rights in the name of covid because you thought you were going to die. You supported sh*tting on the constitution with false crap is why I brought it up. Your orange god is the one who wanted crap on the constitution, stoup. Your admiration of him is very near worship.
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Post by stroupy on Mar 27, 2024 6:25:32 GMT -5
Where is the actual interview? Just because someone wrote it and made it sound like he said something doesn't make it true. If I could see the video and that usually tells another story, because the videos I watched of him he explained his stance. We need a Laughing button we can click on when replies like stroup's here are made. I stand by my comment. I'd like to see the actual interview that you have gotten your Information from. Are you able to provide it?
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Post by stroupy on Mar 27, 2024 6:26:00 GMT -5
The hysteria and false crap that you people pushed to shut down people's rights in the name of covid because you thought you were going to die. You supported sh*tting on the constitution with false crap is why I brought it up. Your orange god is the one who wanted crap on the constitution, stoup. Your admiration of him is very near worship. Yeah, sure.
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Post by rusty on Mar 27, 2024 6:34:32 GMT -5
We need a Laughing button we can click on when replies like stroup's here are made. I stand by my comment. I'd like to see the actual interview that you have gotten your Information from. Are you able to provide it? The information in my reply is available on from more sources than just the AP. BBC, Reuters, The Denver Post all had the same quotes of his. I get the feeling you will not look for information that will show you how you are being played by the cult Stroup.
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Post by stroupy on Mar 27, 2024 6:39:09 GMT -5
I stand by my comment. I'd like to see the actual interview that you have gotten your Information from. Are you able to provide it? The information in my reply is available on from more sources than just the AP. BBC, Reuters, The Denver Post all had the same quotes of his. I get the feeling you will not look for information that will show you how you are being played by the cult Stroup. I'd like to know which interview so I can watch it. I don't need your middle men. Any citations that can lead me the way?
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Post by Loggy on Mar 27, 2024 7:08:30 GMT -5
Well....I think a good litmus test on candidate support is right here. We have a die hard 2A supporting gun owners/sportsmen group and Trump support seems to be wavering at 50% give or take. What does that say for how mainstream the American electorate will vote??
Add rfk jr coming on will even further cement Trump out of contention. Yesterday saw an interview young rfk supporters and out of 8 asked who'd they vote for if rfk was not running...6 said Trump, 1 Biden & 1 uncommitted. RFK supporters said they were primarily Anti Establishment/rebel types....a death blow for Trump. I see a historical Biden landslide already starting to formulate. Main thing....the electorate pie splitting pulling anti establishment/rebel types will pretty much devastate Trumps chances. His 35% base will even be further diluted to in the 20% median range.
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Post by jwk on Mar 27, 2024 8:02:40 GMT -5
From the AP; Again and again, Kennedy has made his opposition to vaccines clear. In July, Kennedy said in a podcast interview that “There’s no vaccine that is safe and effective” and told FOX News that he still believes in the long-ago debunked idea that vaccines can cause autism. In a 2021 podcast he urged people to “resist” CDC guidelines on when kids should get vaccines.
“I see somebody on a hiking trail carrying a little baby and I say to him, better not get them vaccinated,” Kennedy said.
That same year, in a video promoting an anti-vaccine sticker campaign by his nonprofit, Kennedy appeared onscreen next to one sticker that declared “IF YOU’RE NOT AN ANTI-VAXXER YOU AREN’T PAYING ATTENTION.”
A close examination of Kennedy’s campaign finance filings shows that the anti-vaccine movement lies at the heart of his campaignWhere is the actual interview? Just because someone wrote it and made it sound like he said something doesn't make it true. If I could see the video and that usually tells another story, because the videos I watched of him he explained his stance. I was listening to a podcast on my way home the other day and the entire podcast was based on RFK and is conspiracy theories. It was a recorded interview and every time RFK went to explain himself the interviewer would cut him off and go off on why he was wrong. Love him or hate him, you have to let the man tell his side of the story. It's just like Rachel Maddow cutting of Trump in the middle of a speech because she believes that nobody should be able to form their own opinion. I am not voting for him but you can see by the way the Dems are reacting to him they are scared.
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Post by stroupy on Mar 27, 2024 8:37:17 GMT -5
Where is the actual interview? Just because someone wrote it and made it sound like he said something doesn't make it true. If I could see the video and that usually tells another story, because the videos I watched of him he explained his stance. I was listening to a podcast on my way home the other day and the entire podcast was based on RFK and is conspiracy theories. It was a recorded interview and every time RFK went to explain himself the interviewer would cut him off and go off on why he was wrong. Love him or hate him, you have to let the man tell his side of the story. It's just like Rachel Maddow cutting of Trump in the middle of a speech because she believes that nobody should be able to form their own opinion. I am not voting for him but you can see by the way the Dems are reacting to him they are scared. Yep, he gets the same exact treatment as Trump but is way more politically correct. So this notion of if "Trump would just stop saying dumb things" is just plain bullsh*t. People repeat the same narrative that the swamp and their propagandist media tells them. RFK like most of us has some stances that he may be wrong in but he has a right to believe it and he usually brings data with him as to why he feels the way he does.
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Post by davet on Mar 27, 2024 9:03:37 GMT -5
I believe Trump will lose for this very reason: Those who voted for him in the last election (you know....the one he lost) are very much turned off by his baby fit of Jan 6.
He lost the election by a slim margin. But, those who voted for him and are now disgusted by his Jan 6 antics won't vote for him this time. Hey....if it's only 10% he will lose again.
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Post by jwk on Mar 27, 2024 11:15:17 GMT -5
IMO, Democrats are going to have to be careful on how they treat RFK. He made the perfect VP pick, a far left leaning liberal that they will not be able to attack or they pay a heavy price if they do. She was a democrat donor, so they already lost that, and I wonder how many businesses she will be able to bring along?
They already denied him SS protection and my guess is they will dig up dirt or simply make their own dirt on him and most people will see them for what they are.
This is going to be a wild year!
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Post by stroupy on Mar 27, 2024 11:26:28 GMT -5
I believe Trump will lose for this very reason: Those who voted for him in the last election (you know....the one he lost) are very much turned off by his baby fit of Jan 6. He lost the election by a slim margin. But, those who voted for him and are now disgusted by his Jan 6 antics won't vote for him this time. Hey....if it's only 10% he will lose again. Those people are a small number. People's pockets are more important then the fake hysteria of January 6th. Let me guess its up there with December 7th? 🙄
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Post by Loggy on Mar 27, 2024 11:26:58 GMT -5
RFK Jr is a 2020 election denier. Where's those rfk jr voters gonna come from?? If the truth be known the multi-billion $$ Kennedy democratic powerhouse is discreetly behind RFK's run. Something I'm sure will never be known but wouldn't be surprising.
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