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Post by westfieldjoe on May 29, 2023 16:41:31 GMT -5
Some are predicting the change with how antlerless licenses are sold will result with fewer killed per license numbers alloted. I think it will be about the same ratio.
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Post by Dutch on May 29, 2023 18:02:34 GMT -5
Wondering why people think it will change?
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Post by moosemike on May 29, 2023 18:12:25 GMT -5
I'm still nervous wondering what the new system will be
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Post by westfieldjoe on May 29, 2023 19:41:54 GMT -5
Wondering why people think it will change? They think that because the antlerless can bought when the regular license is purchased, they will buy one just for the hell of it. Not be serious about using it. |
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Post by cspot on May 29, 2023 20:22:56 GMT -5
Wondering why people think it will change? They think that because the antlerless can bought when the regular license is purchased, they will buy one just for the hell of it. Not be serious about using it. That wouldn't surprise me. So in turn they will need to raise allocations which would increase the number of licenses sold to get the kill that they want. This would result in more $$ being raised, so not sure what the issue would be. |
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Post by muttleysback on May 30, 2023 5:59:12 GMT -5
I probably will wait a few days to get my license this year. There are plenty of antlerless tags, so there should be no rush to ensure you get one. The crush will happen the first day they go on sale. I might go to the local agent just to watch and see if the system crashes.
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Post by Dutch on May 30, 2023 6:23:35 GMT -5
I probably will wait a few days to get my license this year. There are plenty of antlerless tags, so there should be no rush to ensure you get one. The crush will happen the first day they go on sale. I might go to the local agent just to watch and see if the system crashes. I work where we see licenses. Last year there was an almost all day line just before doe tags went on sale. IMO, they screwed this up, but we will see. Like you, I will wait |
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Post by Dutch on May 30, 2023 6:24:40 GMT -5
I'm still nervous wondering what the new system will be The new system is you buy your doe tag when you buy your license. |
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Post by westfieldjoe on May 30, 2023 6:25:18 GMT -5
I don't buy an antlerless. The change with how they are sold won't entice me into purchasing one.
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Post by Loggy on May 30, 2023 7:32:24 GMT -5
They think that because the antlerless can bought when the regular license is purchased, they will buy one just for the hell of it. Not be serious about using it. That wouldn't surprise me. So in turn they will need to raise allocations which would increase the number of licenses sold to get the kill that they want. This would result in more $$ being raised, so not sure what the issue would be. I think CS nailed it.......system was designed not only for convenience but also to produce more $$$$ end game. When next years harvest numbers are announced and antlerless allocations are made will be the proof in the pudding!! Now no paper applications(where applicant actually has to read lol), no pink mailing process, no checks to be clearing etc etc involved.......electronic cash now immediately in the till!! A BIG WIN, WIN for the PGC!!  |
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Post by moosemike on May 30, 2023 10:43:30 GMT -5
I'm still nervous wondering what the new system will be The new system is you buy your doe tag when you buy your license. So it's a big rush once licenses go on sale everybody will want theirs the first day? |
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Post by westfieldjoe on May 30, 2023 12:29:37 GMT -5
Fogenhorn will be in a panic. Lol.
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Post by Dutch on May 30, 2023 17:41:08 GMT -5
The new system is you buy your doe tag when you buy your license. So it's a big rush once licenses go on sale everybody will want theirs the first day? Yep at 8 am. Pretty much permits don't sell out on the first round, in theory, everyone gets one. We all know people will be in line and online at 8 am. I'm guessing the system crashes |
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Post by Dutch on May 30, 2023 17:42:46 GMT -5
Fogenhorn will be in a panic. Lol. I have not kept up with him for years, IMO, like his buddy JohnS, a jerk |
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Post by moosemike on May 30, 2023 19:32:55 GMT -5
DMAP do sell out in the first round
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Post by muttleysback on May 31, 2023 4:55:15 GMT -5
Fogenhorn will be in a panic. Lol. I have not kept up with him for years, IMO, like his buddy JohnS, a jerk He has two books in print now. Loridr bought me copies. |
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Post by Loggy on May 31, 2023 6:02:16 GMT -5
Who is Fogenhorn??
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Post by moosemike on May 31, 2023 7:06:41 GMT -5
That self aggrandizing conceited prick of a former WCO over on HPA |
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Post by dougl on May 31, 2023 7:55:38 GMT -5
R.S.B. can come of harsh over yhe internet but he's a great guy.I've been personal friends with him for years and he's one of the most knowledgable outdoorsman around.
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Post by westfieldjoe on May 31, 2023 7:57:06 GMT -5
There are only so many hunters who want an antlerless license. The bulk of them were buying in under the pink envelope system. Not all of them intended to use all the antlerless licenses they purchased. If some of those licenses are bled off into the hands of someone buying because they can with little desire to use it, I don't see the harvest rate changing very much.
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Post by moosemike on May 31, 2023 8:17:31 GMT -5
R.S.B. can come of harsh over yhe internet but he's a great guy.I've been personal friends with him for years and he's one of the most knowledgable outdoorsman around. I believe you everytime you say that. But his internet skills do suck |
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Post by dougl on May 31, 2023 8:24:36 GMT -5
They can but you also have to remember that the majority of people he encountered over the past 30 years hated him just because he was a WCO.He's genuinely a good guy who would do just about anything for anyone.The amount of time he's vounteered is hard to even describe.I've spent quite a bit of time with him over the past 20 years and he's different in person than he is on line.
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Post by westfieldjoe on May 31, 2023 9:15:06 GMT -5
Is he related to the Elk County Tresurer?
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Post by Dutch on May 31, 2023 12:04:55 GMT -5
My problem with RSB is he was such a cheerleader for Alt, and when the fawn recruitment data didn't improve, he kept up the cheerleading. Meanwhile, he sent communications saying he sint understand why it hadn't improved, when he was told it would.
Theory is one thing, but data doesn't lie, unless it's manipulated.
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Post by Loggy on May 31, 2023 20:56:31 GMT -5
DMAP do sell out in the first round This year DMAP's won't be available until 8/14. Likely postponed due to expectation of heavy traffic from launch of new antlerless license process. FROM PGC Site:DMAP permits become available to hunters during the third round of antlerless license sales (second Monday of August). However, landowners can request permits for their property until July 1. As landowner requests are processed, new permits for hunters will appear in the system. Hunters not finding permits available for a specific property should contact the landowner for more information. |
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